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Graphic video handgun/shotgun gunfight GG vs BG

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:25 pm
by philip964
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Re: Graphic video handgun/shotgun gunfight GG vs BG

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:29 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Brings to mind those Tom Waits lyrics: "Small Change got rained on by his own .38"....

Re: Graphic video handgun/shotgun gunfight GG vs BG

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:05 pm
by CoffeeNut
His hopping around on one foot got me to chuckle. Another good guy with a gun story that will never make the MSM.

Re: Graphic video handgun/shotgun gunfight GG vs BG

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:54 pm
by MechAg94
Good statement at the end. Don't feel good about killing him, but don't regret it either.

I did like the way he seemed to keep shooting and attacking until the criminal was down and disarmed.

Re: Graphic video handgun/shotgun gunfight GG vs BG

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:59 pm
by jmra
MechAg94 wrote:Good statement at the end. Don't feel good about killing him, but don't regret it either.

I did like the way he seemed to keep shooting and attacking until the criminal was down and disarmed.
:iagree: It's amazing what the body can endure if only for a short period of time. Any hesitation may well have resulted in a hit from the shotgun. That would not have been pleasant.

Re: Graphic video handgun/shotgun gunfight GG vs BG

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:22 pm
by aaangel
holy knock down power batman! must have been a .40 or .45..........o wait he was hopping on one leg.

Re: Graphic video handgun/shotgun gunfight GG vs BG

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:46 am
by magillapd
I'm sure this has been talked about before, but I've noticed several shootings where the gun was fired one handed. Most everyone practices with a 2 handed grip at the range so I find it interesting to see one handed shooting in real life.

I know that training and muscle memory have a lot to do with it, but even seasoned officers sometimes only use one hand.

One other observation, the clerk turned his back on the BG when walking away. This could have been bad if BG had a concealed handgun on him.

Either way, good shoot. Glad the clerk and sister were saved by a good guy with a gun.

Re: Graphic video handgun/shotgun gunfight GG vs BG

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:47 am
by jmra
magillapd wrote:I'm sure this has been talked about before, but I've noticed several shootings where the gun was fired one handed. Most everyone practices with a 2 handed grip at the range so I find it interesting to see one handed shooting in real life.

I know that training and muscle memory have a lot to do with it, but even seasoned officers sometimes only use one hand.

One other observation, the clerk turned his back on the BG when walking away. This could have been bad if BG had a concealed handgun on him.

Either way, good shoot. Glad the clerk and sister were saved by a good guy with a gun.
You should always take time to practice shooting one handed with both your right and left hand. There could be a number of factors that could prevent you from using both hands when shooting in a defensive situation. I know that I would want to make myself as small a target as possible. Turning sideways and aiming with one hand makes you a much smaller target than standing square with the BG and using two hands. If you are shooting from cover it may not be possible to use two hands.

Re: Graphic video handgun/shotgun gunfight GG vs BG

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:54 am
by philip964
I was taught to shoot two handed. Now, I only shoot at the range one handed. I found that if you must shoot quickly, the only advantage of shooting two handed was the speed to acquire the target on the second shot, but only if the second shot was to the same target. If the second shot was to a different target, it was easier and quicker to shoot one handed.

If I was shooting for accuracy only, I would shoot two handed, but if speed is a factor I shoot one handed. I now only shoot for speed and accuracy.

Re: Graphic video handgun/shotgun gunfight GG vs BG

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:24 pm
by CoffeeNut
jmra wrote:
magillapd wrote:I'm sure this has been talked about before, but I've noticed several shootings where the gun was fired one handed. Most everyone practices with a 2 handed grip at the range so I find it interesting to see one handed shooting in real life.

I know that training and muscle memory have a lot to do with it, but even seasoned officers sometimes only use one hand.

One other observation, the clerk turned his back on the BG when walking away. This could have been bad if BG had a concealed handgun on him.

Either way, good shoot. Glad the clerk and sister were saved by a good guy with a gun.
You should always take time to practice shooting one handed with both your right and left hand. There could be a number of factors that could prevent you from using both hands when shooting in a defensive situation. I know that I would want to make myself as small a target as possible. Turning sideways and aiming with one hand makes you a much smaller target than standing square with the BG and using two hands. If you are shooting from cover it may not be possible to use two hands.
:iagree: It's important to know what you're capable of with one hand or just your non-dominant hand. One shot to the arm or even a mediocre hit from a blunt object can disable your normal fighting arm.

I'm a right handed guy but have found that I'm an even better shot with my left hand. :lol: