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CNN "The Guns Project"

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:27 pm
by fickman
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/12/ ... index.html

CNN seems to have invested heavily in a full interactive world to attempt to engage in (what they view as) all aspects of the "guns in America" conversation.

It's filled with bad statistics and unfounded statements, but I wanted to share because they are attempting to look unbiased and as if they are fairly representing all views. The fact is, just the existence of this website and not a "cars in America" project shows a tacit bias.

Anyway, it's worth being aware of as it will likely be the new source for antis who want to show understanding of the pro-2A side before they debate for more gun control.

(I did see a link to one part of the website in a thread by Excaliber here: LINK, but that conversation was about one stat used, not the entire site that has been set up.)

A few of my initial reactions:
- In the "one day of gun violence" section, why are there so many entries from Chicago, Washington, and NY? (Although to be honest, San Antonio did seem heavily represented in a quick skim.)

- The suicide appeal is just insulting to anybody who understands actual logic. They way they try to differentiate why guns are at fault is that "a higher percentage of suicide attempts where a gun is used are successful", as if removing guns would alleviate these deaths.

- There are a lot of hanging questions in the videos, where "so we need to get rid of guns" is the obvious next statement that they've led you to, but they avoid saying the conclusive line so that they can project neutrality.

Irritating.

Re: CNN "The Guns Project"

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:48 pm
by Dave2
I saw that, too, but I was too annoyed with their fake neutrality to seriously look through it.

Re: CNN "The Guns Project"

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:59 pm
by VoiceofReason
They established CNN’s anti gun bias years ago. Now they are trying to appear unbiased?

I would not believe anything they have to say on guns, any “statistics” they cite on guns, or any “quotes” (good or bad) they attribute to anyone about guns.

Just another tactic.

Re: CNN "The Guns Project"

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:39 am
by VMI77
There's still a CNN? Who watches it? I thought it died with the idiot Brit.

Re: CNN "The Guns Project"

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:23 pm
by gthaustex
Something I noticed looking at the interactive site. A pretty significant number of the "Gun violence" blips shown are from law enforcement shooting a suspect for grabbing their gun, shooting / pointing a gun at officers, suicide by cop, etc.

Re: CNN "The Guns Project"

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:42 pm
by mr1337
Here's an actually positive article & video:

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/12/ ... chers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: CNN "The Guns Project"

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:07 pm
by fickman
VMI77 wrote:There's still a CNN? Who watches it? I thought it died with the idiot Brit.
Well, I can confirm there's still a website. Who knows if they still have a TV network.
:cheers2:
mr1337 wrote:Here's an actually positive article & video:
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/12/ ... chers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There are a few, but even those seem hesitant (the gun store owner who started an anti-suicide movement in New Hampshire, for example).

Now it looks like they'll be recycling this "interactive site" with cryptic links on the homepage disguised as news. . .

Example:
Headline: "After the gun shots" links to the "Trauma Center" video as if it's a breaking story.

Re: CNN "The Guns Project"

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:57 pm
by KC5AV
Saw this posted on Twitter... apparently S&W will be submitting a BB gun for the new Army pistol trials.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/03/news/co ... ?hpt=hp_t2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: CNN "The Guns Project"

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:00 pm
by OneGun
Another good story from "The Guns Project":

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/17/opinion/s ... index.html
I chased the man from my house, but he returned after I had called 911. As he climbed the stairs, the realization that I was the only thing standing between my daughters and this maniacal individual gave me resolve. I shot him. He stopped his ascent, turned, walked out the front door, and lay down in the grass.

It took the police approximately 12 minutes to get to our house: not because they weren't doing their job, but because we live in a rural community where crimes can be miles apart and our small police force is already spread thin.

He lived, and he awaits prosecution.