Page 1 of 1

CHL in Federal Properties??

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:06 pm
by zigzag
Ok is it off limits to CHL holders like Post Offices, National Parks, Immigration office, SSS? I did not see a 30 06 sign on our local Post Office. Can someone clarify ? Or its definitely off limits?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:23 pm
by pbandjelly
no.
no one can clarify. :lol:
least about the Post Office thing.
from everything I've read, it's a sticky situation.
the other stuff someone else can post some PC on.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:38 pm
by zigzag
So Federal Buldings or grounds are off limits---to play safe?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:42 pm
by Venus Pax
Federally operated buildings are still off-limits to us. (And didn't you know that people are never attacked there?) ;-)

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:45 pm
by pbandjelly
if you're talking just the Post Office. I'd go to a WalMart or Kroger's with a PO in it.
or, if you're talking about a Federal Prison (easy one), it's a no.
it kinda depends, and I don't have any earthly idea how these cats pull up the TPC so quickly, so I can't quote ya nuthin' good.
sorry, I know that's of little use, but somebody else will post the good stuff.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:10 pm
by KBCraig
Here's the best lawyerly explanation I've ever seen when it comes to the Post Office issue:

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/modules. ... age&pid=96

Bottom line: 18 USC 930, which generally bans firearms in federal buildings, does not apply to the Post Office. Instead, they have their own published Rule (39 CFR 232.1) against firearms. The biggest difference is that being found in violation of 18 USC 930 is a felony, but the maximum penalty for violating 39 CFR 232.1 is a $50 fine, 30 days in jail, or both.

Kevin

Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:12 pm
by KBCraig
pbandjelly wrote:I don't have any earthly idea how these cats pull up the TPC so quickly, so I can't quote ya nuthin' good.
Easy: just save the HTML version to your desktop, then double click to open in a new browser window. :grin:

Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 2:36 pm
by pbandjelly
got the link from the other thread, thanks, mang!

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:24 pm
by zigzag
Yep i mailed some today and waiting in line i saw in their bulletin board a notice that shows a handgun and circled with red and a slash. No .30 06 notice in main entrance.
SO in respect i would nt bring one inside. The place was packed full as people lining up for passport application.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:06 pm
by frankie_the_yankee
No 30.06 sign only means that you can't & won't be prosecuted under TX law.

The feds have their own laws and regulations that apply to post offices and other federal buildings. I don't pretend to know what they are. My understanding is that carrying is generally banned in federal buildings, so I don't do it.

I wonder if a favorable SCOTUS ruling in the Parker case would force the feds tro change some of their rules. I'm thinking not only buildings, but national parks and other misc. pieces of federal LAND. If a ban has to pass "strict scrutiny", it's an uphill battle.

But don't let me hijack this thread now! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Post office

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:32 pm
by res1b3uq
Go to the USPS website, and in search, enter poster #158. That will show you a copy of the poster they are speaking of.

Re: Post office

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:41 pm
by Zero_G
res1b3uq wrote:Go to the USPS website, and in search, enter poster #158. That will show you a copy of the poster they are speaking of.
Didn't work for me:

Search Results Summary

2004 Annual Report of Investigations - Text Version

[PDF] 04FY PI Annual Report

[PDF] 011364 text

[PDF] 2002 COMPREHENSIVESTATEMENT ON POSTAL OPERATIONS 2002

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:50 pm
by Photoman
http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/posters/pos158/welcome.htm

Now...the question is...what is "official purposes?"

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:55 pm
by frankie_the_yankee
Photoman wrote:http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/posters/pos158/welcome.htm

Now...the question is...what is "official purposes?"
You can be sure it doesn't include any of your purposes, unless you are an LEO or Peace Officer of some sort.

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:54 pm
by pbandjelly
naw, just means you can't take snubnose revolvers there!
:lol: