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Obama's Middle East Policy
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:37 am
by Bitter Clinger
This article tries to layout clearly what is obviously a confusing mess created by our amazingly inept and corrupt administration:
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Re: Obama's Middle East Policy
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:34 am
by Beiruty
All middle east policy is a total mess. Arming tyrants for decades and then encouraging an Arabic Spring while doing nothing when people got massacred is calling for a genocide. Just saying, do you feel me, bro?
I read the Article, I think the article is misguided as Iran's Enemy #1 is US, #2 is Israel. If Saudis feel they are being sold for nothing, they would get nukes as of yesterday. The Nuke deal is worth nothing. A study case, NK. Class dismissed.
True, Iran is dominating 4 Arab Capitals, but that does not mean Iran is everywhere. All this mess is when US invaded Iraq to support or use Shias who are minority in the Middle East. This is an old trick of the Super Powers since WWI
Re: Obama's Middle East Policy
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:36 pm
by JCole
I get it; you think Obama sucks. What does this have to do with guns or self-defense?
Re: Obama's Middle East Policy
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:56 pm
by Vol Texan
JCole wrote:I get it; you think Obama sucks. What does this have to do with guns or self-defense?
Every time we hear of another beheading, or anything else if that nature, my wife and I are reminded that it will soon be coming to America. Like it or not, it will happen.
Be vigilant, and carry always.
Or - pray for a leadership of this country that can remove its head from its own hind quarters long enough to develop a cohesive, practical strategy to eliminate the threat while it is still primarily offshore.
Re: Obama's Middle East Policy
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:57 pm
by rbwhatever1
I really thought this was going to be a blank post when I opened it. I wouldn't let one of my cows pee on him if he was afire...
The world has gotten smaller. The action or inaction of the US CINC had a really big effect on Colleen Hufford.
Re: Obama's Middle East Policy
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:42 pm
by anygunanywhere
JCole wrote:I get it; you think Obama sucks. What does this have to do with guns or self-defense?
Everything. Think about it using reason and logic. Examine history. Look at the progressive agenda to destroy Israel.
Re: Obama's Middle East Policy
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:01 pm
by tomtexan
Vol Texan wrote:Every time we hear of another beheading, or anything else if that nature, my wife and I are reminded that it will soon be coming to America. Like it or not, it will happen.
Be vigilant, and carry always.
Or - pray for a leadership of this country that can remove its head from its own hind quarters long enough to develop a cohesive, practical strategy to eliminate the threat while it is still primarily offshore.
Like it or not, it has already happened.
Woman killed at Oklahoma workplace beheaded by co-worker
The suspect was a Muslim convert.
Re: Obama's Middle East Policy
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:10 pm
by Bitter Clinger
JCole wrote:I get it; you think Obama sucks. What does this have to do with guns or self-defense?
Sorry, I mistakedly thought that making the linkage would be unecessary. Thanks to those who were able to make it.
In 1988, the FBI discovered a secret Muslim Brotherhood document which laid out their plans to replace the Constitution with Islamic Sharia law. (Original document accepted as evidence in Holy Land terror financing trial)
The document stated that "The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers..."
One person who dared to speak out about the Islamist threat is Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, a devout Muslim-American who served as an officer in the U.S. navy and also as a physician to the US Congress.
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Last week, the same week as his shameful address at the National Prayer breakfast, Obama Met US Muslim Brotherhood Linked Leaders
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/ ... od-leaders" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Azhar Azeez represented the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) in the talks with Obama. Azeez was founder and past president of the Dallas/Fort Worth chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), another U.S. Muslim Brotherhood entity.
You must certainly be aware of what took place in Garland and in Austin these past few weeks.
Hope this helps....
Re: Obama's Middle East Policy
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:23 pm
by mojo84
I can see where an ineffective Middle Policy can lead to one needing to stop an Islamic Terrorist on US land or air. I wish some of the folks on the planes would have had guns. Maybe some of the 3000 people that died wouldn't have. Not that I see us getting to the point where the good guys can carry guns on flights but I do see it on the ground and in our daily lives.
Re: Obama's Middle East Policy
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:45 pm
by Cedar Park Dad
anygunanywhere wrote:JCole wrote:I get it; you think Obama sucks. What does this have to do with guns or self-defense?
Everything. Think about it using reason and logic. Examine history. Look at the progressive agenda to destroy Israel.
I think he's saying - how is this an appopriate post on the CHL forum which tries to shy away from such?
Re: Obama's Middle East Policy
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:01 pm
by Beiruty
Ikhwan, or Muslim Brotherhoods founded in Eygpt, then adopted violent methodology against fellow Muslims, when the misguided ex-communist Sayyed Qutb became the ideology guider in late 60s.
ISIS has the same ideology.
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Note, that such organization was allowed to exist in the west for a long time and used as a tool to destabilize Eygpt at the days of President Jamal Abul-Nasser (who was supported by USSR).
Re: Obama's Middle East Policy
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:46 pm
by Jim Beaux
JCole wrote:I get it; you think Obama sucks. What does this have to do with guns or self-defense?
Bitter Clinger is relatively new to the forum and mistakenly posted an off topic subject in the wrong sub forum. No biggie, the mods can move it.
Bitter this should have been posted in the "Off Topic" sub forum. PM one of the mods and ask them to move it. Good article.

Re: Obama's Middle East Policy
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:30 am
by Bitter Clinger
Jim Beaux wrote:JCole wrote:I get it; you think Obama sucks. What does this have to do with guns or self-defense?
Bitter Clinger is relatively new to the forum and mistakenly posted an off topic subject in the wrong sub forum. No biggie, the mods can move it.
Bitter this should have been posted in the "Off Topic" sub forum. PM one of the mods and ask them to move it. Good article.

WIll do. Thanks for the correction and I apologize to all for the error.
Re: Obama's Middle East Policy
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:14 pm
by VMI77
He has a policy? I didn't think appeasement was a policy.
Re: Obama's Middle East Policy
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:23 pm
by AFAmmo
Glenn Beck had an interesting show yesterday (Monday the 9th) about the first Muslim tribunal (court) established in Dallas. Their purpose is to hear cases under Sharia law for Muslims here. Fundamental change is here.
