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False Testimony by President of Texas Chapter of Mom’s Dema

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:09 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
I posted the entire article. It's on http://www.TexasFirearmsCoalition.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; in the What Where They Thinking section. The article on the TFC website has links to the videos and data. I'm also going to post it on Facebook in case anyone wants to share it.

Chas.
TexasFirearmsCoalition.com wrote:Kelly Burke falsely testified that there are no statistics regarding crimes by Texas Concealed Handgun Licensees. That was a real whopper!

Multi-billionaire Michael Bloomberg is pouring money into sham organizations in an attempt to strip Americans of their Second Amendment rights. He has to disguise his efforts by funding different organizations because Americans are tired of his desire to control every aspect of their lives from the amount of soft drinks their kids can drink to denying them access to self-defense handguns.

Kelly Burke, President of the Texas Chapter of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, testified under oath (video at the 07:56:50 mark) during public hearings on two gun bills, SB11 (campus-carry) and SB17 (open-carry). Her testimony was to be expected as it was nothing more than a retelling of “blood in the streets” predictions heard when concealed-carry was passed in 1995 and when the Motorist Protection Act was passed in 2007. It was a big yawn moment, right up to the point that she made a blatantly false statement to the committee. Ms. Burke’s false sworn testimony was a real eye-opener because everyone in the room knew it was not true!

She testified that:

“We do not know about how quote responsible CHL holders are because data set is not available and it’s completely locked down. Any statement about how quote responsible and law-abiding CHLs are is completely anecdotal and therefore conjecture.”

Ms. Burke’s statement is demonstrably untrue and she either knew it or should have known it. Prior to the beginning of testimony, Sen. Huffman, Chair of the Committee, read a statement making it clear that everyone who signed up to testify that they were doing so under oath. This admonishment alone should have given Ms. Burke pause, but as can be seen by her demeanor, she was not deterred.

The Texas CHL statute has always required the Texas Dept. of Public Safety to publish certain data on crimes committed by Texas CHL holders. DPS has gone above and beyond the call of duty by publishing all criminal data on CHLs and this information has been available for almost two decades. This data has been analyzed and published on the TexasCHLforum.com also for many years. The analysis is presented both in summary form, per 100,000, as well as in detail for every crime category maintained by DPS.

There is a humorous side to this story. Obviously, Ms. Burke was unaware that it is likely that every Senator on the Committee was already in possession of the DPS statistical data and analysis since it has been proved to them and used in both the Senate and House for several legislative sessions. So every Senator listing to those comments knew they were untrue.

Remember this when you see other false, inflated and/or unbelievable statements by Moms Demand Action, Every Town, or any other Bloomberg plant. For all anyone knows, Kelly Burke may be a very nice, sweet lady caught up in a Bloomberg scheme of lies. Nevertheless, one must ask why would a Bloomberg shill provide false testimony under oath to a Senate Committee just to thwart expansion of Second Amendment rights? Come to think of it, that was a silly question.

Re: False Testimony by President of Texas Chapter of Mom’s D

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:28 pm
by C-dub
Did anyone call her on it? Could or will they pursue perjury charges?

Re: False Testimony by President of Texas Chapter of Mom’s D

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:40 pm
by mojo84
I can't remember what he said but the guy they shipped in that said he is a survivor of the Virginia Tech shootings said something that stood out as not true to me but I can't tender right now what it was.

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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:07 pm
by SRH78
Sadly, that isn't the least bit surprising. These fools lie so often, they probably don't even remember what the truth is. Hopefully incidents like this will help more people realize what these groups truly are.

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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:54 pm
by treadlightly
I'm pretty sure one of the "Mom" types (nothing like my Mom, I assure you) said something along the lines of how there were no other states that allowed open carry, and none considering it. Sad.

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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:03 pm
by chuck j
I like the law student that was going to be forced to leave the state of Texas to pursue her college education else where although the university she would have attended here would not get her tuition money . I thought that was truly sad . lol

Re: False Testimony by President of Texas Chapter of Mom’s D

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:04 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
C-dub wrote:Did anyone call her on it? Could or will they pursue perjury charges?
No, it was so late, everyone was tired, and everyone wanted to go home. Had it happened early on, Sen. Birdwell would have blasted her on it.

Chas.

Re: False Testimony by President of Texas Chapter of Mom’s D

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:07 pm
by joe817
"Obviously, Ms. Burke was unaware that it is likely that every Senator on the Committee was already in possession of the DPS statistical data and analysis since it has been proved to them and used in both the Senate and House for several legislative sessions. So every Senator listing to those comments knew they were untrue."

YES! YES! YES!! I knew it! The folks HAD to have had information like that prior to the hearing. And bless them for keeping a straight face, and moving right along! :thumbs2:









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Re: False Testimony by President of Texas Chapter of Mom’s D

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:11 pm
by chuck j
Even the Austin chief said CHL folks were a gem for comparison .

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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:12 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
C-dub wrote:Did anyone call her on it? Could or will they pursue perjury charges?
No, it was so late, everyone was tired, and everyone wanted to go home. Had it happened early on, Sen. Birdwell would have blasted her on it.

Chas.
I have to say, I was VERY impressed with the way Senator Joan Huffman ran the meeting. She was ruthless - in a good way - in that she kept the thing on track and moving, and she didn't tolerate nonsense.

Re: False Testimony by President of Texas Chapter of Mom’s D

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:13 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
joe817 wrote:"Obviously, Ms. Burke was unaware that it is likely that every Senator on the Committee was already in possession of the DPS statistical data and analysis since it has been proved to them and used in both the Senate and House for several legislative sessions. So every Senator listing to those comments knew they were untrue."

YES! YES! YES!! I knew it! The folks HAD to have had information like that prior to the hearing. And bless them for keeping a straight face, and moving right along! :thumbs2: '
The comments about "1/15th as likely to commit a crime" and "15 times less likely to commit a crime" came from the data I keep updated here on the Forum and that I provide to Senators and Representatives. In fact, the "15 times less likely" language is a direct quote, but it was from prior years since we up to better than 17 times less likely.

Chas.

Re: False Testimony by President of Texas Chapter of Mom’s D

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:18 pm
by n5wd
Referring to Tam's post, above...

:iagree:

This was the first time I've watch a Texas leg committee at work (have watched the feds on CSPAN before) and I was quite impressed.

Unfortunately, I had to burn data on my mobile wiFi hotspot, as the school's network didn't have the ooomph to stream the video. It was worth the $$$, though.

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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:45 pm
by joe817
Charles L. Cotton wrote:The comments about "1/15th as likely to commit a crime" and "15 times less likely to commit a crime" came from the data I keep updated here on the Forum and that I provide to Senators and Representatives. In fact, the "15 times less likely" language is a direct quote, but it was from prior years since we up to better than 17 times less likely. Chas.
It's like you said 2 or 3 days ago, paraphrasing(or words similar), "there are many people besides forum members who frequent the forum, as they know they will get accurate, factual and timely information."

Thank you. :tiphat:

Re: False Testimony by President of Texas Chapter of Mom’s D

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:14 am
by TXBO
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
C-dub wrote:Did anyone call her on it? Could or will they pursue perjury charges?
No, it was so late, everyone was tired, and everyone wanted to go home. Had it happened early on, Sen. Birdwell would have blasted her on it.

Chas.
I certainly understand that but a perjury charge would be appropriate. It would give great exposure to who they are. It's one thing to lie in the media. It's a complete other to lie during a legislative or judicial process.

Re: False Testimony by President of Texas Chapter of Mom’s D

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:31 am
by K5GU
I wasn't surprised by her comments. Remember that she's a member of the cult infested with people who promote more gun free death zones.