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The Star Telegram on OCTC - nothing new, really
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:43 pm
by treadlightly
Open carry activists not so open about criminal past -
http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/op ... 43031.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
I don't know Bud Kennedy's politics. Kory Watkins has a little more acne on his permanent record than I thought.
Re: The Star Telegram on OCTC - nothing new, really
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:02 pm
by baldeagle
The very reason that licensing is important.
Re: The Star Telegram on OCTC - nothing new, really
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:11 pm
by joe817
baldeagle wrote:The very reason that licensing is important.
Exactly!

Re: The Star Telegram on OCTC - nothing new, really
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:31 pm
by Oldgringo
joe817 wrote:baldeagle wrote:The very reason that licensing is important.
Exactly!

Absolutely!
Re: The Star Telegram on OCTC - nothing new, really
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:36 pm
by anygunanywhere
Oldgringo wrote:joe817 wrote:baldeagle wrote:The very reason that licensing is important.
Exactly!

Absolutely!
For a right? I disagree. Are citizens of other states that require no license more ethical and law abiding than Texans?
Re: The Star Telegram on OCTC - nothing new, really
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:57 pm
by suthdj
anygunanywhere wrote:Oldgringo wrote:joe817 wrote:baldeagle wrote:The very reason that licensing is important.
Exactly!

Absolutely!
For a right? I disagree. Are citizens of other states that require no license more ethical and law abiding than Texans?

Re: The Star Telegram on OCTC - nothing new, really
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:17 pm
by treadlightly
The terrible thing is I agree with some of what that idiot spews. I believe I have a Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.
I would consider praying to my Maker that nothing I did would ever approach the social unease this guy causes, but it would be a waste of the Great Architect's ear. Nothing, absolutely nothing, would make me carry a firearm in an unreasonable way intended to cause peaceful fellow citizens to feel endangered.
It's a gun safety issue, if nothing else. If I display a weapon in an aggressive way, then... Ah, forget it. It's all so stinkin' obvious. Those who have no respect for what a firearm means have no business carrying them.
Constitutional rights are at the mercy of due process, and they are also properly restrained by appropriate responsibility.
Re: The Star Telegram on OCTC - nothing new, really
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:28 pm
by baldeagle
anygunanywhere wrote:Oldgringo wrote:joe817 wrote:baldeagle wrote:The very reason that licensing is important.
Exactly!

Absolutely!
For a right? I disagree. Are citizens of other states that require no license more ethical and law abiding than Texans?
Can you yell fire in a crowded theatre? No right is absolute.
Re: The Star Telegram on OCTC - nothing new, really
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:31 pm
by KC5AV
Am I missing something? A Class A misdemeanor is only disqualifying for 5 years, right? His conviction was in 2000. If he's still ineligible, there has to be something else.
Re: The Star Telegram on OCTC - nothing new, really
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:37 pm
by TXBO
KC5AV wrote:Am I missing something? A Class A misdemeanor is only disqualifying for 5 years, right? His conviction was in 2000. If he's still ineligible, there has to be something else.
You're right.
Re: The Star Telegram on OCTC - nothing new, really
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:39 pm
by anygunanywhere
baldeagle wrote:anygunanywhere wrote:Oldgringo wrote:joe817 wrote:baldeagle wrote:The very reason that licensing is important.
Exactly!

Absolutely!
For a right? I disagree. Are citizens of other states that require no license more ethical and law abiding than Texans?
Can you yell fire in a crowded theatre? No right is absolute.
I did not say rights are absolute. Licensing a right thereby giving permission to exercise the right sets the precedent for licensing all rights. As we so often state, these requirements we go through to carry do nothing to prevent those inclined to break the law from carrying. The clowns we all know and love who have sullied the OC debate are prime examples. Embracing the status quo and not advancing our RKBA because someone will break the law is absurd.
Re: The Star Telegram on OCTC - nothing new, really
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:53 pm
by chuck j
baldeagle wrote:anygunanywhere wrote:Oldgringo wrote:joe817 wrote:baldeagle wrote:The very reason that licensing is important.
Exactly!

Absolutely!
For a right? I disagree. Are citizens of other states that require no license more ethical and law abiding than Texans?
Can you yell fire in a crowded theatre? No right is absolute.
I'll give you no argument baldeagle but am interested in your ideas on the subject ?
Re: The Star Telegram on OCTC - nothing new, really
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:54 pm
by joelamosobadiah
Poor reporting IMO. The article says:
Depending on his other misdemeanors, Watkins
might be eligible by now or in another state. Mostly, though, he has said that he considers licenses an unjust interference with what he calls his “God-given rights.”
Read more here:
http://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/op ... rylink=cpy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Seems as though they intentionally led people to believe he is currently ineligible for a CHL, but don't have any proof to back that up.
Re: The Star Telegram on OCTC - nothing new, really
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:08 pm
by v7a
baldeagle wrote:Can you yell fire in a crowded theatre? No right is absolute.
Schumer’s False Fire
This fire-in-a-theater jazz is a favorite of the less historically literate among America’s false-compromisers, most of whom know neither that the phrase was a (defective) analogy and not a legal doctrine, nor that the case from which it comes was subsequently overturned with some prejudice.
Re: The Star Telegram on OCTC - nothing new, really
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:15 pm
by joe817
KC5AV wrote:Am I missing something? A Class A misdemeanor is only disqualifying for 5 years, right? His conviction was in 2000. If he's still ineligible, there has to be something else.
I believe he reset the clock when he & his wife were arrested back in September. Interfering with duties of a police officer IIRC. More info here:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=74270&p=935167&hili ... ns#p935167" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;