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Looking for a little help, on some OLD firearm law.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:23 pm
by G.A. Heath
I am looking for the TEXT (photo or scanned image will work) of HB115 which was filed by Frederick Edward Grothaus from the 12th legislature (1871). I am researching this for some perspective. Now who can tell me why I am looking for this?

Re: Looking for a little help, on some OLD firearm law.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:42 pm
by mojo84
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Re: Looking for a little help, on some OLD firearm law.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:44 pm
by gljjt
G.A. Heath wrote:I am looking for the TEXT (photo or scanned image will work) of HB115 which was filed by Frederick Edward Grothaus from the 12th legislature (1871). I am researching this for some perspective. Now who can tell me why I am looking for this?

Open carry outlawed??

Re: Looking for a little help, on some OLD firearm law.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:46 pm
by jmra
Would it be in one of the 925 pages of the house journal for that session?

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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:50 pm
by joe817
It was the last time the Republicans held a majority of seats in the Legislature....before now. ALSO, the first to which African-Americans were elected.

Still looking for your HB115. Zat the one that prohibited open carry, by any chance?

Re: Looking for a little help, on some OLD firearm law.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:51 pm
by mtnthundr2
I found the 'House Journal' for 1871 and have searched it for that particular HB # but the search doesn't bring up anything, maybe there is some wording on that bill that a search would find? It appears to be typed and was published by J.G Tracey, State Printer in 1871. Its 468 pages, would you like the link?

Re: Looking for a little help, on some OLD firearm law.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:52 pm
by jmra
An act to regulate the keeping and bearing of deadly weapons.
Mentioned on page 95 of the journal

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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:09 pm
by mtnthundr2
***** pg 295 of the House Journal;
On motion of Mr. Grothaus, the rules were suspended to take up
. out of its regular order House bill No. 115, to be entitled " An act
to regulate the keeping and bearing of deadly weapons,"' which Avas
read the second time and referred to the Judiciarv Committee.
******* pgs 443 and 444;
Hon. IRA H. EVANS,
Speaker of the House of Representatives :
S IR : Your Committee on Judiciary, to whom was referred House
444 HOUSE JOURNAL.
bill No. 116, entitled 'An act to regulate the keeping and bearing of
deadly weapons;"' also. House bill No. 258, entitled ''An act to regulate
the keeping and bearing of arms ; ' also. House bill No. 312,
entitled an act regulating the right to keep and bear arms," after
duly considering each separately, ask leave to report, that these bills
are in substance the same, all having a common object. Your committee
are of the opinion that House bill No. 115, is best calculated
to secure the end sought to be attained ; they would, therefore, respectfully
recommend that it do pass, and that House bills Nos. 258
and 312 be laid on the table. Your committee further recommcLd
that the bill be printed.
Respectfully,
JNO. W. ROBERTSON, Chairman.
WILLIAM PRISSICK,
F. G. FRANKS,
F. E. GROTHAUS,
H. W. YOUNG.
While we are in favor of a rigid law on this subject, we are not
in favor of this bill
J. E. HAWKINS,
J. W. POSEY,
J. C. JENKINS.
House bill No. 115, to be entitled "An act to regulate the keeping
and bearing of deadly weapons," with the report of the committee,
on motion of Mr. Robertson, was ordered printed, and made the
special order for one week from to-morrow at 11 o'clock A. M.

Re: Looking for a little help, on some OLD firearm law.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:26 pm
by jmra
Amendments to the bill start on page 523

Re: Looking for a little help, on some OLD firearm law.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:30 pm
by jmra
Picks up again on page 528

Re: Looking for a little help, on some OLD firearm law.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:32 pm
by G.A. Heath
I am 99% sure this is the very bill that outlawed the carrying of handguns. But without reading the bill's text I can not say for 100% certain. I am slowly going through the journal pages looking for it, but I was hoping that someone might know where to find it a little quicker.

Re: Looking for a little help, on some OLD firearm law.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:33 pm
by mtnthundr2
jmra wrote:Picks up again on page 528
JMRA, have you found the original text of the bill? I've been scouring the pages and can't seem to find the original wording of the complete bill as it submitted, only finding a summary.

Re: Looking for a little help, on some OLD firearm law.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:35 pm
by jmra
mtnthundr2 wrote:
jmra wrote:Picks up again on page 528
JMRA, have you found the original text of the bill? I've been scouring the pages and can't seem to find the original wording of the complete bill as it submitted, only finding a summary.
Not yet.

Re: Looking for a little help, on some OLD firearm law.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:41 pm
by jmra
Sent to the Sent on March 11 (page 555).

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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:44 pm
by mtnthundr2
I found the Senate Journal but its not as easy to read and search as the House Journal :(