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Shoulder or Belt Holster

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:08 pm
by Rvrrat14
Is their a true definition in the proposed statutes of these for OC purposes? Thanks!

Re: Shoulder or Belt Holster

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:27 pm
by joelamosobadiah
Long Discussion on the topic here:

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Re: Shoulder or Belt Holster

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:48 pm
by Rvrrat14
Was asking due to my use of multiple Paddle style holsters and their comfort......

Re: Shoulder or Belt Holster

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:55 pm
by canvasbck
Short answer, your paddle holster would be a belt holster.

Re: Shoulder or Belt Holster

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:58 am
by mojo84
Rvrrat14 wrote:Was asking due to my use of multiple Paddle style holsters and their comfort......
To what is your paddle holster designed to attach? There's your answer.

Re: Shoulder or Belt Holster

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:25 pm
by Rvrrat14
My paddle holsters ride on the inside waistband of your pants. There is an indentation for the belt.

Re: Shoulder or Belt Holster

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:47 pm
by mojo84
Rvrrat14 wrote:My paddle holsters ride on the inside waistband of your pants. There is an indentation for the belt.

There you go. It's designed to hook over the belt. Therefore, it's a belt holster.

Re: Shoulder or Belt Holster

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:49 pm
by txglock21
mojo84 wrote:
Rvrrat14 wrote:My paddle holsters ride on the inside waistband of your pants. There is an indentation for the belt.

There you go. It's designed to hook over the belt. Therefore, it's a belt holster.
Just for clarification, do you actually have to be wearing a belt with it? I have some holsters that can be worn both with or without a belt.

Re: Shoulder or Belt Holster

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:07 pm
by The Wall
I don't have a shoulder holster, and never considered wearing one concealed because I almost never wear a jacket or anything else that would conceal it.
Will be interesting to see how many start using them with open carry. Might want to buy stock in a shoulder holster company. :lol:

Re: Shoulder or Belt Holster

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:13 pm
by mojo84
txglock21 wrote:
mojo84 wrote:
Rvrrat14 wrote:My paddle holsters ride on the inside waistband of your pants. There is an indentation for the belt.

There you go. It's designed to hook over the belt. Therefore, it's a belt holster.
Just for clarification, do you actually have to be wearing a belt with it? I have some holsters that can be worn both with or without a belt.
It doesn't say you have to. When the term "belt holster" is used, it seems to mean a holster designed to be worn with a belt.

I have a Remora as a backup holster for quick short trips when I don't want to mess with my Crossbreed or OWB belt holster. It is designed to be worn so the pressure from the belt and/or slacks keep it in place. I think that would suffice as well. Don't take my word for it though. Make up your own mind.

Re: Shoulder or Belt Holster

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:51 pm
by oljames3
txglock21 wrote:
mojo84 wrote:
Rvrrat14 wrote:My paddle holsters ride on the inside waistband of your pants. There is an indentation for the belt.
There you go. It's designed to hook over the belt. Therefore, it's a belt holster.
Just for clarification, do you actually have to be wearing a belt with it? I have some holsters that can be worn both with or without a belt.
I wear my paddle holster with a belt for two reasons. 1) My 3 pound pistol pulls my pants down without a belt. 2) I need a place to hang my cell phone and extra mag.

But even if I were not wearing a belt, the nature of the holster would not change. It is still a belt holster. YMMV.

Re: Shoulder or Belt Holster

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:29 pm
by Rvrrat14
I mostly wear my paddles (ccw) without a belt, like with cargo shorts, warm-ups, jeans, etc. I take it is should be good to go as a belt holster from what's been said. I will continue to ccw, but like the freedom of OC, should my Columbia fishing shirt ride up on occassion.

THANKS EVERYONE!

Re: Shoulder or Belt Holster

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:03 am
by jerry_r60
It seems to me it would be a good idea to not try to push any boundaries. I don't know about you but I have no desire to be a test case. At least for the first year or two until things normalize, it seems that it would be prudent for a belt holster to be attached / retained in some way to your waist with a belt. Not with a belt around your arm or around your passenger seat or some other imaginative place. I'm not taking about what's technically legal but more what is most likely to avoid problems that might interrupt my day or cost me money.

Re: Shoulder or Belt Holster

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:09 am
by CJD
jerry_r60 wrote:It seems to me it would be a good idea to not try to push any boundaries. I don't know about you but I have no desire to be a test case. At least for the first year or two until things normalize, it seems that it would be prudent for a belt holster to be attached / retained in some way to your waist with a belt. Not with a belt around your arm or around your passenger seat or some other imaginative place. I'm not taking about what's technically legal but more what is most likely to avoid problems that might interrupt my day or cost me money.
If we want open carry in a vehicle to be however we please, then support HB1509 (among other things, vehicle open carry).

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... ill=HB1509" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This bill strikes from 46.02 (a-1):
(1)the handgun is in plain view; or

Re: Shoulder or Belt Holster

Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:52 am
by amtank
I spoke with Four Price's office about 1509 this morning in fact asking for calenders to put it on the calender.