South Dakota / Wyoming Trip After Action Review
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:57 pm
Just got back from a trip to SD and WY. Here are a few points / observations from the trip:
- As usual, the airlines seem to operate according to their own rules. When I checked my firearms in Houston, the agent did not want to see them. She only verified that the box was locked and had me sign the affidavit (orange form). When I checked them in Rapid City this morning, the agent (same airline) wanted me to show her they were unloaded (and actually seemed to know what she was looking for). Other than that, no issues checking firearms.
- We visited mutliple National Parks and Forests in SD and WY, most buildings are posted with "no gun" signs. This is true of lodges and hotels in the National Parks (more on this later) so you need a strategy for storing your weapon when you are in these situations (Visitor Centers, Museums, Ranger Stations, etc).
- I did carry past a "no gun" sign in a private park in SD as it was not a defined "no carry" location according to law. No issue doing this.
- We stayed in Grand Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park for a few nights. The large motels in the parks are posted with "no gun" signs. Individual cabins are not posted. If you are going there and have the time to plan, staying in individual cabins will allow you to keep your firearm in the room with you instead of locked in your vehicle (at least as far as I can tell). Restaurants and Grills are also posted uniformly throughout these parks.
- I did see one person open carrying in Wyoming. He was driving a vehicle with Missouri plates (looked like his vehicle and not a rental). We were in a fairly busy scenic overlook area with people from multiple states there (based on license plates). No one seemed concerned about the open carry.
- The parks are careful to point out on their websites that while carrying is legal (under state laws for carry), discharging is illegal. They also point out that use of a firearm is not an acceptable strategy for dealing with aggressive wildlife (namely bears).
- I will also note that at Mt. Rushmore, I noticed two National Park Rangers in body armour, carrying Glocks, both had multiple spare magazines (I think 6 to 8 each) and they seemed to be "patrolling" the main areas. I did not observe armed rangers at other parks. Maybe Rushmore is identified as a potential target and gets more attention?
- Lastly, I was pulled over in WY for speeding (I can't believe a state with so many wide open spaces has a speed limit of 65 mph). I did not inform the officer I was carrying nor did I show him my CHL (according to WY law I am not required). He did not ask. He did give me an opportunity to contribute to the WY state budget which I will do on line as I was guilty as his radar gun confirmed.
All in all, a positive travel experience with firearms.
Also, one of the most beautiful trips we've ever taken. My wife and daughter easily took 300+ photos a day each of scenic beauty and wildlife. If you haven't been to this part of the US, I highly recommend it.
- As usual, the airlines seem to operate according to their own rules. When I checked my firearms in Houston, the agent did not want to see them. She only verified that the box was locked and had me sign the affidavit (orange form). When I checked them in Rapid City this morning, the agent (same airline) wanted me to show her they were unloaded (and actually seemed to know what she was looking for). Other than that, no issues checking firearms.
- We visited mutliple National Parks and Forests in SD and WY, most buildings are posted with "no gun" signs. This is true of lodges and hotels in the National Parks (more on this later) so you need a strategy for storing your weapon when you are in these situations (Visitor Centers, Museums, Ranger Stations, etc).
- I did carry past a "no gun" sign in a private park in SD as it was not a defined "no carry" location according to law. No issue doing this.
- We stayed in Grand Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park for a few nights. The large motels in the parks are posted with "no gun" signs. Individual cabins are not posted. If you are going there and have the time to plan, staying in individual cabins will allow you to keep your firearm in the room with you instead of locked in your vehicle (at least as far as I can tell). Restaurants and Grills are also posted uniformly throughout these parks.
- I did see one person open carrying in Wyoming. He was driving a vehicle with Missouri plates (looked like his vehicle and not a rental). We were in a fairly busy scenic overlook area with people from multiple states there (based on license plates). No one seemed concerned about the open carry.
- The parks are careful to point out on their websites that while carrying is legal (under state laws for carry), discharging is illegal. They also point out that use of a firearm is not an acceptable strategy for dealing with aggressive wildlife (namely bears).
- I will also note that at Mt. Rushmore, I noticed two National Park Rangers in body armour, carrying Glocks, both had multiple spare magazines (I think 6 to 8 each) and they seemed to be "patrolling" the main areas. I did not observe armed rangers at other parks. Maybe Rushmore is identified as a potential target and gets more attention?
- Lastly, I was pulled over in WY for speeding (I can't believe a state with so many wide open spaces has a speed limit of 65 mph). I did not inform the officer I was carrying nor did I show him my CHL (according to WY law I am not required). He did not ask. He did give me an opportunity to contribute to the WY state budget which I will do on line as I was guilty as his radar gun confirmed.
All in all, a positive travel experience with firearms.
Also, one of the most beautiful trips we've ever taken. My wife and daughter easily took 300+ photos a day each of scenic beauty and wildlife. If you haven't been to this part of the US, I highly recommend it.