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"Dallas Zoo could be headed for legal showdown over ‘no guns’ signs"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:21 pm
by BulldogBorders
Saw this news article online this morning...


http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/ ... igns.html/

Re: "Dallas Zoo could be headed for legal showdown over ‘no guns’ signs"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:46 pm
by n5wd
Now we get to see if the Attorney General's office will enforce the law quickly, or stall. And on the assumption that the AG's ruling on the Dallas Zoo's attempt to pawn itself off as either an amusement park or a school will most likely be binding on the Austin and Fort Worth Zoo's, perhaps we'll see some action on those fronts as well.

For those that are interested - the DMNews story also includes the letter to the AG, the letter from the Zoo to the complainant, and the original demand letter to the Zoo (In case you're going to file against someone, later).

Re: "Dallas Zoo could be headed for legal showdown over ‘no guns’ signs"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:54 pm
by Beiruty
n5wd wrote:Now we get to see if the Attorney General's office will enforce the law quickly, or stall. And on the assumption that the AG's ruling on the Dallas Zoo's attempt to pawn itself off as either an amusement park or a school will most likely be binding on the Austin and Fort Worth Zoo's, perhaps we'll see some action on those fronts as well.

For those that are interested - the DMNews story also includes the letter to the AG, the letter from the Zoo to the complainant, and the original demand letter to the Zoo (In case you're going to file against someone, later).
Does the zoo awards credits, degrees, or diplomas? Is it a HS level or is it College level. If so, do they have an enrolment office? If no, it is not a school. Case closed.

Re: "Dallas Zoo could be headed for legal showdown over ‘no guns’ signs"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:58 pm
by RoyGBiv
Beiruty wrote:
n5wd wrote:Now we get to see if the Attorney General's office will enforce the law quickly, or stall. And on the assumption that the AG's ruling on the Dallas Zoo's attempt to pawn itself off as either an amusement park or a school will most likely be binding on the Austin and Fort Worth Zoo's, perhaps we'll see some action on those fronts as well.

For those that are interested - the DMNews story also includes the letter to the AG, the letter from the Zoo to the complainant, and the original demand letter to the Zoo (In case you're going to file against someone, later).
Does the zoo awards credits, degrees, or diplomas? Is it a HS level or is it College level. If so, do they have an enrolment office? If no, it is not a school. Case closed.
The Dallas Zoo is claiming to be an "amusement park"

Re: "Dallas Zoo could be headed for legal showdown over ‘no guns’ signs"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:09 pm
by Beiruty
RoyGBiv wrote:
Beiruty wrote:
n5wd wrote:Now we get to see if the Attorney General's office will enforce the law quickly, or stall. And on the assumption that the AG's ruling on the Dallas Zoo's attempt to pawn itself off as either an amusement park or a school will most likely be binding on the Austin and Fort Worth Zoo's, perhaps we'll see some action on those fronts as well.

For those that are interested - the DMNews story also includes the letter to the AG, the letter from the Zoo to the complainant, and the original demand letter to the Zoo (In case you're going to file against someone, later).
Does the zoo awards credits, degrees, or diplomas? Is it a HS level or is it College level. If so, do they have an enrolment office? If no, it is not a school. Case closed.
The Dallas Zoo is claiming to be an "amusement park"
Does it have roller coasters, or rides? Nope.
Even the Dallas Fair does not classify itself as an Amusement park.

Re: "Dallas Zoo could be headed for legal showdown over ‘no guns’ signs"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:38 pm
by RoyGBiv
Beiruty wrote:
RoyGBiv wrote:
Beiruty wrote:
n5wd wrote:Now we get to see if the Attorney General's office will enforce the law quickly, or stall. And on the assumption that the AG's ruling on the Dallas Zoo's attempt to pawn itself off as either an amusement park or a school will most likely be binding on the Austin and Fort Worth Zoo's, perhaps we'll see some action on those fronts as well.

For those that are interested - the DMNews story also includes the letter to the AG, the letter from the Zoo to the complainant, and the original demand letter to the Zoo (In case you're going to file against someone, later).
Does the zoo awards credits, degrees, or diplomas? Is it a HS level or is it College level. If so, do they have an enrolment office? If no, it is not a school. Case closed.
The Dallas Zoo is claiming to be an "amusement park"
Does it have roller coasters, or rides? Nope.
Even the Dallas Fair does not classify itself as an Amusement park.
They are claiming that the monorail is a "ride".

46.035
(1) “Amusement park” means a permanent indoor or outdoor facility or park
where amusement rides are available for use by the public that is located in
a county with a population of more than one million, encompasses at least 75
acres in surface area, is enclosed with access only through controlled entries,
is open for operation more than 120 days in each calendar year, and has
security guards on the premises at all times. The term does not include any
public or private driveway, street, sidewalk or walkway, parking lot, parking
garage, or other parking area.

Re: "Dallas Zoo could be headed for legal showdown over ‘no guns’ signs"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:59 pm
by Beiruty
They might be called ride, but is not "amusement" ride. Amusement ride is what one can see at Six-flags or state fair. It is up to the judge to clarify what is an amusement ride.

Re: "Dallas Zoo could be headed for legal showdown over ‘no guns’ signs"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:03 pm
by BulldogBorders
Beiruty wrote:They might be called ride, but is not "amusement" ride. Amusement ride is what one can see at Six-flags or state fair. It is up to the judge to clarify what is an amusement ride.

I agree. I have never once been amused on that ride at the zoo, well except this one time when two animals were having... Umm, well, never mind, it probably wasn't that amusing! =)

Re: "Dallas Zoo could be headed for legal showdown over ‘no guns’ signs"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:11 pm
by Pariah3j
Someone on the article commented:
If the Dallas Zoo is an amusement park then i want to ride the elephants
"rlol"

Re: "Dallas Zoo could be headed for legal showdown over ‘no guns’ signs"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:34 pm
by Beiruty
Pariah3j wrote:Someone on the article commented:
If the Dallas Zoo is an amusement park then i want to ride the elephants
"rlol"
And I need to ride the ostriches:

Image

Re: "Dallas Zoo could be headed for legal showdown over ‘no guns’ signs"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:47 pm
by ELB
Pariah3j wrote:Someone on the article commented:
If the Dallas Zoo is an amusement park then i want to ride the elephants
"rlol"
Winner! :smilelol5:

Re: "Dallas Zoo could be headed for legal showdown over ‘no guns’ signs"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:49 pm
by RoyGBiv
Beiruty wrote:They might be called ride, but is not "amusement" ride. Amusement ride is what one can see at Six-flags or state fair. It is up to the judge to clarify what is an amusement ride.
I'm not disagreeing with you.... Just describing their argument. ;-)

Re: "Dallas Zoo could be headed for legal showdown over ‘no guns’ signs"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:03 pm
by suthdj
so which law holds more power the carve out for amusement parks or the fact it is still on city owned property? My guess the one that is least cumbersome on the people.

Re: "Dallas Zoo could be headed for legal showdown over ‘no guns’ signs"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:06 pm
by Jago668
suthdj wrote:so which law holds more power the carve out for amusement parks or the fact it is still on city owned property? My guess the one that is least cumbersome on the people.
Except I don't think it hits the 75 acre limit for an amusement park. I remember somebody posting it is only around 68 acres.

Re: "Dallas Zoo could be headed for legal showdown over ‘no guns’ signs"

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:16 pm
by gljjt
What am I missing? Even if it is amusement park, since it is owned the City of Dallas, it is not off limits for carry. The sign is irrelevant.