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Courthouse property

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:01 pm
by Locksmith
Took my wife to the Wise County Annex court today because she was subpoenaed in a case.
I had no intention of entering the court so I was carrying as I always do. Somebody told me to check out the judge's courtroom decorum rules posted on the website
http://www.co.wise.tx.us/ccl2/Decorum.htm

While reading it I noticed this rule:

"Weapons

For your safety, weapons of all types (guns, chemical spray, knives, etc.) are NOT PERMITTED on courthouse property or in the courtroom unless you are a member of law enforcement in the discharge of your duties. Having a concealed handgun permit is NOT an exception to this rule."

Am I wrong in my understanding that the law only prohibits a chl from entering the building?

Re: Courthouse property

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:46 pm
by G.A. Heath
There is a slightly grey area regarding the building because of the language in 46.035 that defines premises as a building or portion of a building. The Attorney General has released an opinion saying that multifunction buildings are not off limits, just the courts and their offices are. Due to resistance from the various count and city facilities we are going to see this tested in court thanks to the fines for signs law.

46.035 specifically excludes parking lots, side walks, and other common areas from the off limits locations.

Re: Courthouse property

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:51 pm
by Solaris
Locksmith wrote: "Weapons

For your safety, weapons of all types (guns, chemical spray, knives, etc.) are NOT PERMITTED on courthouse property or in the courtroom unless you are a member of law enforcement in the discharge of your duties. Having a concealed handgun permit is NOT an exception to this rule."
Incorrect on so many levels, LTC, LEOSA, 30.05, etc.

Re: Courthouse property

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:26 pm
by ScottDLS
Regardless of the notice you should be OK outside of the buildings. Multi-use buildings (i.e. courthouse and something else) are the gray area. Most Texas courts I've seen have metal detectors...in case you forget, but really the parking lot, and non-court buildings should be OK unless they are off limits for some other reason.