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Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:17 am
by 338winmag
According to Texas Carry, the AG sent them a letter telling them they had 15 days to take down the signs at the court house.
If you want to read the letter, it's posted on their Facebook page.
Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:41 am
by ELB
Good deal.
Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:54 am
by SewTexas
looks like Bell County and Kleberg! very cool
Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 9:17 am
by steveincowtown
SewTexas wrote:looks like Bell County and Kleberg! very cool
I suspect that once other cities/ counties see that action is being taken they will start obeying the law as well.
Also, as a side note, I wish I was given that kind of time to comply when I broke the law!
"Sir I received notice you were going 10 MPH over the speed limit. I will investigate this and get back to you. Once my investigation is complete I will send you a letter and you will have 15 days to slow it down."
Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 9:26 am
by Soccerdad1995
steveincowtown wrote:SewTexas wrote:looks like Bell County and Kleberg! very cool
I suspect that once other cities/ counties see that action is being taken they will start obeying the law as well.
Also, as a side note, I wish I was given that kind of time to comply when I broke the law!
"Sir I received notice you were going 10 MPH over the speed limit. I will investigate this and get back to you. Once my investigation is complete I will send you a letter and you will have 15 days to slow it down."
There are different rules for the subjects, unfortunately.
Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 10:35 am
by locke_n_load
It's unfortunate that the OAG hasn't been keeping their website for complaint letters up to date.
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/30 ... ng-letters
Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 11:14 am
by ELB
They seem to do them in batches, so there may be some others going/gone out that we haven't heard about yet. Would be bad form to post them on the website before the addressees get them.
Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 12:49 pm
by puma guy
338winmag wrote:According to Texas Carry, the AG sent them a letter telling them they had 15 days to take down the signs at the court house.
If you want to read the letter, it's posted on their Facebook page.
Texas Carry is a closed group on FB. Do you have a link for the letter?
Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 1:23 pm
by ELB
The letter is here:
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/fi ... e_Cntr.pdf
The Ruling Letters page was updated today.
Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 1:46 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 6:11 pm
by casp625
I'm seriously surprised the Bell County Justice Complex was ruled in violation. It's pretty much 90% courtrooms with a few administrative areas, such as the county clerks in varying areas. Unless someone is going into the bathroom, the clerk office or library, one will find themselves violating 46.03 in a heartbeat.
Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 10:44 pm
by SewTexas
this could be interesting. I wonder if it will end up affecting Guad County Courthouse. I've been saying that the front area shouldn't be signed but the whole building is because that's how they have the metal detector and purse search set up. Personally, I could rearrange it in about 15 mins.

Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 10:46 pm
by SewTexas
casp625 wrote:I'm seriously surprised the Bell County Justice Complex was ruled in violation. It's pretty much 90% courtrooms with a few administrative areas, such as the county clerks in varying areas. Unless someone is going into the bathroom, the clerk office or library, one will find themselves violating 46.03 in a heartbeat.
that's the thing though, if I'm going to the clerk and I don't have to go anywhere near a courtroom I shouldn't have to disarm.
Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 11:16 pm
by casp625
SewTexas wrote:casp625 wrote:I'm seriously surprised the Bell County Justice Complex was ruled in violation. It's pretty much 90% courtrooms with a few administrative areas, such as the county clerks in varying areas. Unless someone is going into the bathroom, the clerk office or library, one will find themselves violating 46.03 in a heartbeat.
that's the thing though, if I'm going to the clerk and I don't have to go anywhere near a courtroom I shouldn't have to disarm.
If I am looking for court records, scheduling questions, etc., I contact the county clerk's office. While I can see how the district attorney's office is not essential to court operations, how is the clerk's office not essential? In other words, if all the county clerk offices decided to shutdown operations, would courts still be able to function properly? How would a court function properly if the only employees were the judge, bailiff, and court reporter?
Re: Bell County ordered to take down the signs
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:09 am
by nimravus01
Very interesting. I was just in there the other day. In the lobby, there is a snack/coffee bar. You must go through the metal detector and run your bag through an x-ray machine, however, to get to it. I wonder if it could be argued that the coffee bar is essential to court function? Lol.