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Buying a gun this week? Have a LTC or don't be in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:14 am
by Scott B.
Our friends at the FBI debuted their new NICS system today. They were going to roll it out last year, but delayed it after the Charleston church shooting (and subsequent fallout).
Right now it's not working, so nobody is doing background checks. We have our fingers crossed that it might be running later in the day.
If you've got your good guy/gal card, you'll be fine.
Long story short, if you visit your local gun store and the personnel look more frazzled than usual, you'll know why.

Re: Buying a gun this week? Have a LTC or don't be in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:28 am
by Jusme
Scott B. wrote:Our friends at the FBI debuted their new NICS system today. They were going to roll it out last year, but delayed it after the Charleston church shooting (and subsequent fallout).
Right now it's not working, so nobody is doing background checks. We have our fingers crossed that it might be running later in the day.
If you've got your good guy/gal card, you'll be fine.
Long story short, if you visit your local gun store and the personnel look more frazzled than usual, you'll know why.

Good info thanks,
The conspiracy theorist in me says this is intentional, and that the BHO DOJ has found a way to stymie gun sales. I don't put anything past this guy.

Re: Buying a gun this week? Have a LTC or don't be in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:29 am
by Soccerdad1995
I wonder if Academy will stop doing unnecessary checks on LTC holders as a result....
Re: Buying a gun this week? Have a LTC or don't be in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:31 am
by Flightmare
Soccerdad1995 wrote:I wonder if Academy will stop doing unnecessary checks on LTC holders as a result....
A buddy of mine has bought 2 guns at Academy recently. Neither time did they run a background check on him since he had his LTC.
Re: Buying a gun this week? Have a LTC or don't be in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:31 am
by Pariah3j
While not getting an instant response as normal would be very frustrating, isn't there something in the law that says they have to give an answer within X number of days as to prevent them from sitting on an application for whatever reason they deem. So wouldn't this just start the countdown and could mean you obtain your gun without the FBI ever knowing ?
Re: Buying a gun this week? Have a LTC or don't be in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:12 am
by Scott B.
That clock only starts once the background check is submitted. Right now, you can't start the process so no clock in play.
Re: Buying a gun this week? Have a LTC or don't be in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:15 am
by Scott B.
Jusme wrote:Scott B. wrote:Our friends at the FBI debuted their new NICS system today. They were going to roll it out last year, but delayed it after the Charleston church shooting (and subsequent fallout).
Right now it's not working, so nobody is doing background checks. We have our fingers crossed that it might be running later in the day.
If you've got your good guy/gal card, you'll be fine.
Long story short, if you visit your local gun store and the personnel look more frazzled than usual, you'll know why.

Good info thanks,
The conspiracy theorist in me says this is intentional, and that the BHO DOJ has found a way to stymie gun sales. I don't put anything past this guy.

Tempting conspiracy theory.
What they're doing is supposed to speed the system up and modernize it. Anyone who's ever worked with government technology contracts knows it will be 50% over budget, 3 yrs late, and built with 10 yr old off-the-shelf technology.

Re: Buying a gun this week? Have a LTC or don't be in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:36 am
by Skiprr
Scott B. wrote:What they're doing is supposed to speed the system up and modernize it. Anyone who's ever worked with government technology contracts knows it will be 50% over budget, 3 yrs late, and built with 10 yr old off-the-shelf technology.

Alas,
Or worse; vis-a-vis HealthCare.gov: millions over budget, based on nothing functional, and wasn't reasonably operational for months after "go live."
Good luck with the firearm-buying public until this is fixed.

Re: Buying a gun this week? Have a LTC or don't be in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:46 am
by LosAlce
Flightmare wrote:Soccerdad1995 wrote:I wonder if Academy will stop doing unnecessary checks on LTC holders as a result....
A buddy of mine has bought 2 guns at Academy recently. Neither time did they run a background check on him since he had his LTC.
I also have purchased a few guns at my "local" Academy (closest is over an hour away) recently and didn't have to wait on a check after handing them my LTC. They also didn't hassle me for buying 500rds of 5.56.
Re: Buying a gun this week? Have a LTC or don't be in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 12:44 pm
by zimmerdesignz
This is going to slow LTC applications also???
Re: Buying a gun this week? Have a LTC or don't be in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 12:50 pm
by LabRat
Flightmare wrote:Soccerdad1995 wrote:I wonder if Academy will stop doing unnecessary checks on LTC holders as a result....
A buddy of mine has bought 2 guns at Academy recently. Neither time did they run a background check on him since he had his LTC.
Agreed. When I bought my last firearm at Academy, the fellow started talking about a background check and I said "I have a CHL."
He says "Yes! Nice to see. No background check to run!"
I'm out of there pretty quickly. So, I've never had a background check at Academy when purchasing a firearm.
LabRat
Re: Buying a gun this week? Have a LTC or don't be in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:25 pm
by LeonCarr
Have they put the ARs back on display?
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
Re: Buying a gun this week? Have a LTC or don't be in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:28 pm
by Scott B.
There's a glimmer of hope! I was able to get into the system and check NTN status and look at the new background submission form.
Next step is to restore the integration between our FFL software and NICS.
Re: LTC background checks.
Let's hope it's a momentary delay at worst. For that matter, I wonder if the states have a queue they can dump batch queries into? I can't imagine them doing them one check at a time, but maybe they do.
Re: Buying a gun this week? Have a LTC or don't be in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:58 pm
by Jago668
LeonCarr wrote:Have they put the ARs back on display?
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
Not as of last Thursday. Drove past one and didn't have anything going on so I went in to see.
Re: Buying a gun this week? Have a LTC or don't be in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 2:01 pm
by GeekwithaGun
LeonCarr wrote:Have they put the ARs back on display?
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
I also checked on July 22 in Lewisville, none in the racks, only non-EBR's and shotguns.