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DFW area: Pistol instructor recommendations
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:53 pm
by bblhd672
Since I now have both a small conceal carry 9mm pistol and a full size 9mm pistol I want to invest in pistol training to move me from a "competent LTC course shooter" to advanced skills including:
1. Correcting and refining shooting stance(s), weak hand shooting
2. Drawing from holsters, both concealed and open
3. Shooting while moving, shooting from cover
4. Home defense tactics
5. Other advanced topics
Looking for recommendations in the DFW area for instructors.
Thanks in advance!
Re: DFW area: Pistol instructor recommendations
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:34 pm
by Bitter Clinger
There are at least 4 really good tactical pistol instructors here in DFW and they all have classes coming up soon. I prefer Phil Ryan And Robbie Allmon as their classes are smaller and so you tend to get more trigger time, less standing around and more personal instruction:
Phil Ryan is active duty LEO and former marine, small classes, very individualized attention:
http://txconcealedcarry.com/event/level-i-handgun/
Robbie Allmon is former LEO, former Marine and also favors small classes with individualized instruction, first course in 2017 will be carbine / pistol, but not until May:
http://p2-concepts.com/index.php/event/ ... lications/
Mac McKenzie is out in Greenville, he is another former Marine, outstanding trainer, but his classes tend to be bigger and more physically demanding:
https://www.criticaldefensegroup.com/pr ... b-25-2017/
Krantz is active duty LEO, classes tend to be large also:
http://www.kranzftg.com/events/shooting ... ass-32517/
As an aside, Wilson Combat classes are reportedly quite good (I have not been), heard that they are also rather large, and typically require an overnight (on his ranch up near Paris I believe):
http://www.wilsoncombat.com/classes-and-training/
Let me know if you decide to do one of these, I may likely join you!
Re: DFW area: Pistol instructor recommendations
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:53 pm
by bblhd672
Bitter Clinger wrote:There are at least 4 really good tactical pistol instructors here in DFW and they all have classes coming up soon. I prefer Phil Ryan And Robbie Allmon as their classes are smaller and so you tend to get more trigger time, less standing around and more personal instruction:
Phil Ryan is active duty LEO and former marine, small classes, very individualized attention:
http://txconcealedcarry.com/event/level-i-handgun/
Robbie Allmon is former LEO, former Marine and also favors small classes with individualized instruction, first course in 2017 will be carbine / pistol, but not until May:
http://p2-concepts.com/index.php/event/ ... lications/
Mac McKenzie is out in Greenville, he is another former Marine, outstanding trainer, but his classes tend to be bigger and more physically demanding:
https://www.criticaldefensegroup.com/pr ... b-25-2017/
Krantz is active duty LEO, classes tend to be large also:
http://www.kranzftg.com/events/shooting ... ass-32517/
As an aside, Wilson Combat classes are reportedly quite good (I have not been), heard that they are also rather large, and typically require an overnight (on his ranch up near Paris I believe):
http://www.wilsoncombat.com/classes-and-training/
Let me know if you decide to do one of these, I may likely join you!
Thanks I'll check these out
Re: DFW area: Pistol instructor recommendations
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:29 pm
by Jago668
Proactive Defense north of Fort Worth has a couple good people. If you can get Chris or Doug Rainey for private instruction they can really help you out.
Re: DFW area: Pistol instructor recommendations
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:50 pm
by Beiruty
Phil Ryan is my CHL Instructor, 2X. Recommended. His brother in law is also an instructor.
I did a Tac pistol course with Tiger Valley and I find it very engaging and challenging, it included all basic stuff including shooting in low light visibility. Tiger Valley are highly recommended. The course was at Elm Fork Range.
I can teach basic shooting skills for free if you can see me at FGC.
https://www.tigervalley.com/
Re: DFW area: Pistol instructor recommendations
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:54 pm
by Beiruty
bblhd672 wrote:Since I now have both a small conceal carry 9mm pistol and a full size 9mm pistol I want to invest in pistol training to move me from a "competent LTC course shooter" to advanced skills including:
1. Correcting and refining shooting stance(s), weak hand shooting
2. Drawing from holsters, both concealed and open
3. Shooting while moving, shooting from cover
4. Home defense tactics
5. Other advanced topics
Looking for recommendations in the DFW area for instructors.
Thanks in advance!
Come shoot with us at Dallas Pistol Club after you complete the course. You would practice all the above.
Some of the matches would look like...
https://youtu.be/XnfY69D7Xgw
Re: DFW area: Pistol instructor recommendations
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:10 pm
by Beiruty
Bitter Clinger and me at DPC

Re: DFW area: Pistol instructor recommendations
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:41 pm
by bubba84
Jeff krantz of Krantz FTG.
Jeff is a plano police officer who is on the swat team as well as his fellow instructors, shawn casey and michael bogacki. Bogacki is also a former army ranger
Used to with them when I was at the PD and they all three know their atuff.
Re: DFW area: Pistol instructor recommendations
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:00 pm
by TXRon
+1 for Proactive Defense. They have several great instructors...
http://www.proactivedefense.net
Re: DFW area: Pistol instructor recommendations
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:02 pm
by Bitter Clinger
bubba84 wrote:Jeff krantz of Krantz FTG.
Jeff is a plano police officer who is on the swat team as well as his fellow instructors, shawn casey and michael bogacki. Bogacki is also a former army ranger
Used to with them when I was at the PD and they all three know their atuff.
Kranz FTG Pistol/Carbine class
11-13-16
Prosper, TX
https://youtu.be/dMRM_jXNv_8
Re: DFW area: Pistol instructor recommendations
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:00 am
by RoyGBiv
Re: DFW area: Pistol instructor recommendations
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:28 am
by bblhd672
Beiruty wrote:Phil Ryan is my CHL Instructor, 2X. Recommended. His brother in law is also an instructor.
I did a Tac pistol course with Tiger Valley and I find it very engaging and challenging, it included all basic stuff including shooting in low light visibility. Tiger Valley are highly recommended. The course was at Elm Fork Range.
I can teach basic shooting skills for free if you can see me at FGC.
https://www.tigervalley.com/
Thanks. I've never been to FGC, I think my nephew shoots there some.
Re: DFW area: Pistol instructor recommendations
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:29 am
by bblhd672
Beiruty wrote:
Come shoot with us at Dallas Pistol Club after you complete the course. You would practice all the above.
Some of the matches would look like...
https://youtu.be/XnfY69D7Xgw
That looks like fun. I don't understand what the rules and scoring are but there's plenty of bang, bang, bang!
Re: DFW area: Pistol instructor recommendations
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:30 am
by bblhd672
Thanks to everyone for your recommendations.
Re: DFW area: Pistol instructor recommendations
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:47 am
by kg5ie
bblhd672 wrote:Since I now have both a small conceal carry 9mm pistol and a full size 9mm pistol I want to invest in pistol training to move me from a "competent LTC course shooter" to advanced skills including:
1. Correcting and refining shooting stance(s), weak hand shooting
2. Drawing from holsters, both concealed and open
3. Shooting while moving, shooting from cover
4. Home defense tactics
5. Other advanced topics
Looking for recommendations in the DFW area for instructors.
Thanks in advance!
Texas Tactical in Weatherford offers Tactical Pistol, Tactical Rifle, and Tactical Shotgun to the public. You get a discount if you take all three. Trainer is ex-LEO master peace officer and former tactical operator contractor with lots of sand box experience. They also do SWAT, Sniper, and Active Shooter classes for police departments.