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This is the type of thing that happens where the criminals don't fear anyone.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/articl ... 094745.php

Teenagers. What are you gonna' do?

warnmar10 wrote:Teenagers. What are you gonna' do?

Hire additional security!

"40 to 60 teens" board and only seven people are robbed. Sounds inefficient....

JustSomeOldGuy wrote:"40 to 60 teens" board and only seven people are robbed. Sounds inefficient....

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The reason why this stuff happens is that there are no consequences for it. I was reading another article this morning where there was a fight in a mall where 40 teenagers were involved. They have social media that confirms that it was premeditated. There will be no follow up story about prosecuting those involved because there won't be any prosecution.

What could one realistically do if caught up in the BART situation except be a good victim? This is CA so there is no chance for self-defense in public and, if you did, you would surely go to prison afterward. Bernie Getz found that out in NYC. Somehow, living in a place where the best that you can hope for is that the criminal will be kind to you doesn't have much appeal. Oakland is the perfect melding of all that is wrong with the Liberal governance model.

That all ran back to Berkley when they where done. I think they have a riot scheduled this week! (serious though)

It wasn't the first time. Obviously they need a police presence.

warnmar10 wrote:Teenagers. What are you gonna' do?

Stop the threat as the law allows for.

JustSomeOldGuy wrote:"40 to 60 teens" board and only seven people are robbed. Sounds inefficient....

Sounds to me like most of them were followers and only a handful were doing the robbing. If one person defended themselves with a gun, probably 35 to 55 teens (or all of them) would be running away as fast as they could.

E.Marquez wrote:

warnmar10 wrote:Teenagers. What are you gonna' do?

Stop the threat as the law allows for.

This was Oakland BART. You're thinking of Oklahoma BART.

I have ridden BART a few times. It seems like 40-60 would completely fill a couple of the cars with standing room only.
I am not saying that people shouldn't be armed, but there would be no way to safely fire a gun in that situation.
BART goes from Fremont to San Francisco and goes through some really bad neighborhoods including Oakland.
It would be very easy to get on at one station, rob a couple people, and get off at the next stop.
It has been a long time ago, but I believe that each station has some kind of "BART police", but I don't think
that they are armed.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of these geniuses recorded a video of the robbery on their cell phone.

warnmar10 wrote:

E.Marquez wrote:

warnmar10 wrote:Teenagers. What are you gonna' do?

Stop the threat as the law allows for.

This was Oakland BART. You're thinking of Oklahoma BART.

I was doing transference.... If Texas had a BART...

But yes IN Oakland a victim would be limited to saying "Stop, or I shall say stop again in a meaner tone" as what they are going to do.
I was born, raised and lived in the bay area from 1965 to 1985.. I have returned only 7 times since departing, 5 of those to visit my mother, 6th to be with her as she died in her bed, 7th to throw her from the SF Bridge and settle her estate.
If my brother and his kids did not still reside in CA I could safely say I would never return.