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Armed good Samaritan stopped Hike-and-Bike trail sex assault, affidavit says

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:52 pm
by mescobar_rpls
http://kvue.tv/2wGThzs

I am surprised that they reported the details of the Good Samaritan. I am glad he was there and was prepared. From the police press conference, the police said that the victim got up and came between the Good Samaritan and the perpetrator. The perpetrator then ran.

Re: Armed good Samaritan stopped Hike-and-Bike trail sex assault, affidavit says

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:19 am
by Mike S
Thank you for posting this, and Praise God for armed citizens that aren't afraid to be good human beings. Praying for an emotional recovery for the victim (and likely some needed for all that stopped to assist).

Re: Armed good Samaritan stopped Hike-and-Bike trail sex assault, affidavit says

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:49 am
by allisji
It sounded like they were asking people whether or not they would consider the good Samaritan as a hero, and that one woman hesitated. "I would think so, because he stopped a woman from probably being raped."

I could almost sense that the woman was conflicted in calling the man a hero, likely in a liberal center like Austin she is anti-gun and anti-concealed carry. And with the amount of sexual violence that occurs in college cities and on college campuses, and the amount of outrage in Austin over campus carry, this event could really damage their narrative. I bet that the girl who was being attacked on the trail is glad that the good guy had a gun and not a sex toy.

Re: Armed good Samaritan stopped Hike-and-Bike trail sex assault, affidavit says

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:40 am
by ELB
Emphasis added:
The affidavit said he put his hand over her mouth and repeatedly said, "shh, it's me baby, it's me" as she tried to scream and use a whistle to call for help.
ETA:
I wonder Chief Acevedo would care to comment...?

Re: Armed good Samaritan stopped Hike-and-Bike trail sex assault, affidavit says

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:29 pm
by Lynyrd
ELB wrote:Emphasis added:
The affidavit said he put his hand over her mouth and repeatedly said, "shh, it's me baby, it's me" as she tried to scream and use a whistle to call for help.
ETA:
I wonder Chief Acevedo would care to comment...?
Unfortunately, that is all that is legal in the UK.

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q589.htm

Re: Armed good Samaritan stopped Hike-and-Bike trail sex assault, affidavit says

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:49 pm
by Excaliber
Here we have another violent attack incident where the attacker only stopped when confronted with the immediate threat of deadly force, and a lot of history that shows that the threatened or actual use of deadly force is more effective than anything else in ending violent attacks.

At the same time we see the politically crippled police completely miss (or deliberately distract from) the obvious by advising runners to carry flashlights and not listen to iPods on the trail, while conspicuously neglecting to advise them to do the only thing that actually helps in these situations - carry an effective weapon (preferably a firearm or at least a fighting knife) and be prepared to use it.

In my opinion this omission is nothing less than professional malpractice and a major disservice to the people this agency is paid to protect.

Re: Armed good Samaritan stopped Hike-and-Bike trail sex assault, affidavit says

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:28 pm
by cmgee67
Here is another good example on how having a light with your or on you carry gun is a good idea. I carry both a pocket light and weapon light on my g19. Glad the guy stopped that attack.

Re: Armed good Samaritan stopped Hike-and-Bike trail sex assault, affidavit says

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:10 pm
by ELB
Excaliber wrote:...
At the same time we see the politically crippled police completely miss (or deliberately distract from) the obvious by advising runners to carry flashlights and not listen to iPods on the trail, while conspicuously neglecting to advise them to do the only thing that actually helps in these situations - carry an effective weapon (preferably a firearm or at least a fighting knife) and be prepared to use it.
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I absolutely agree, but maybe now that Acevedo is gone they are making small bit of progress? I was really surprised to read this from the Assistant Chief:
Chacon thanked Williams and other joggers who cared enough to stop and help. He said many people would have chosen not to get involved, which may have contributed to the number of unsolved sexual assault cases in the past few years.
Usually the police spokesman or brass give a half-hearted praise followed up with "We don't recommend blah blah let the police handle it etc etc."

I was also surprised that the article did not say anything about a LTC. I don't know whether this is an oversight, an attempt to not give press to LTCs, or it's just become natural to assume he had an LTC.

Re: Armed good Samaritan stopped Hike-and-Bike trail sex assault, affidavit says

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:40 pm
by NotRPB

Re: Armed good Samaritan stopped Hike-and-Bike trail sex assault, affidavit says

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:44 pm
by Soccerdad1995
ELB wrote:
Excaliber wrote:...
At the same time we see the politically crippled police completely miss (or deliberately distract from) the obvious by advising runners to carry flashlights and not listen to iPods on the trail, while conspicuously neglecting to advise them to do the only thing that actually helps in these situations - carry an effective weapon (preferably a firearm or at least a fighting knife) and be prepared to use it.
...
I absolutely agree, but maybe now that Acevedo is gone they are making small bit of progress? I was really surprised to read this from the Assistant Chief:
Chacon thanked Williams and other joggers who cared enough to stop and help. He said many people would have chosen not to get involved, which may have contributed to the number of unsolved sexual assault cases in the past few years.
Usually the police spokesman or brass give a half-hearted praise followed up with "We don't recommend blah blah let the police handle it etc etc."

I was also surprised that the article did not say anything about a LTC. I don't know whether this is an oversight, an attempt to not give press to LTCs, or it's just become natural to assume he had an LTC.
One possibility is that the guy didn't have an LTC, but the Austin LEO's decided to let that slide given the circumstances. Given that this is Austin, that possibility is likely zero, but it is a possibility.