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Hornady Critical Defense 9mm Ammo
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:49 pm
by Dano
So I recently bought an HK VP9 for Home Defense & Concealed Carry. I have been getting used to the gun shooting Remington 115 grain FMJ and have been pleased so far with the accuracy of the gun and ammo. When I was in my LTC class the instructor said he uses Hornady Critical Defense for self defense loads so I thought that would be a good place for me to start for that same purpose. Today I was at the range and decided to run some through the gun to make sure they cycle properly and just see how to see how they shoot. What I found is that they cycled perfectly but were not very accurate. Anyone else have this experience? Any suggestions on a good self defense ammo?
Thanks
Dan
Re: Hornady Critical Defense 9mm Ammo
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:13 pm
by Lena
Gold Dot
WW Ranger T
Cor-Bon
Re: Hornady Critical Defense 9mm Ammo
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:27 pm
by carlson1
All of the above are great suggestions. From time to time I use Hornady Critical Duty in my full size guns and I use Hornady Critical Defense in my short barrel guns.
Re: Hornady Critical Defense 9mm Ammo
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:49 pm
by Liberty
I found that my. Shooting improved when I changed from 115gr to 124 gr.YMMV. Different guns like different ammo.
Re: Hornady Critical Defense 9mm Ammo
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:01 pm
by Dano
Great suggestions, thank you.
Re: Hornady Critical Defense 9mm Ammo
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:02 pm
by troglodyte
Luckygunner has done some good testing. Not scientifically exhuastive but a great place to start.
https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-d ... tests/#9mm
Shootingthebull410 also did some good testing
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg ... -w4Yozc27i
Re: Hornady Critical Defense 9mm Ammo
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:14 pm
by SigM4
As a general rule SD loads tend to run hotter than your garden variety range ammo. It may be that the more robust recoil and report was throwning off your shooting. That said it can’t hurt to try out some of the other loads listed here.
I’m partial to Federal HST in 124 grain. The Gold Dots are also great performers. Whatever you settle on, check out SG Ammo or similar online companies to get yourself a couple hundred rounds of your preferred SD ammo.
I try to refresh mine about once a year, though I do think even that is a bit too often. Regardless will be nice knowing you have several years worth of quality ammo on hand.
Oh yeah, and nice choice in firearms and welcome to the forum. You’ll love it here, lots of great (knowledgeable) folks.
Re: Hornady Critical Defense 9mm Ammo
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:58 am
by Wag2323
I have a VP9 and I have no problems with Federal HST LE in it. I believe they are 147g. I have not shot any Hornady in it I don't believe. The gun is way more accurate than I am.
I believe the VP9 was designed around shooting 124 NATO so a little heavier bullet might be nice. Also not that it really matters for close range but they are setup to cover the target with the front dot not a 6 o'clock hold.
Re: Hornady Critical Defense 9mm Ammo
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:16 am
by Dano
Thanks Wag2323. I noticed that about the set up on the VP9. Since reading all of the excellent suggestions provided here (thanks again to all) I am ordering some 124 grain Gold Dot & HST to see how they run for me.
Re: Hornady Critical Defense 9mm Ammo
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:59 am
by skeathley
A heavier bullet hits harder, but with a slight increase in recoil. POI will also sometimes shift based on bullet weight. That can be a good way to fine-tune your set-up, presuming accuracy itself is not tbe issue.

Re: Hornady Critical Defense 9mm Ammo
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:39 am
by MechAg94
I can't remember which Hornady ammo it was but watch the velocity of the rounds you are buying. Some Hornady self defense ammo is rated at a little slower velocity compared to other brands or even other Hornady ammo. Usually you can see that shown on the boxes at the store.
I first noticed it a while back shooting a few extra HP rounds of various types out of a 9mm carbine at 100 yards. Some took a noticeably longer time to hit the target. It didn't occur to me to pay attention to the velocity numbers prior to that. The rounds may be designed to work at that velocity, but I figure faster is usually better for the grain weight you are using. Results may vary.
Re: Hornady Critical Defense 9mm Ammo
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:08 am
by RPBrown
I use the Critical Defense 124 grain in my one and only 9mm (P938) and have not had any issues. I am not as accurate with 115 gr. even in practice rounds but I think its just me.
Re: Hornady Critical Defense 9mm Ammo
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:44 am
by The Annoyed Man
RPBrown wrote:I use the Critical Defense 124 grain in my one and only 9mm (P938) and have not had any issues. I am not as accurate with 115 gr. even in practice rounds but I think its just me.
My excuse is eyesight.....
I run 115 grain Critical Defense in my G43, and 135 grain +P Critical Duty in my G19 & G17. The few “practice” rounds I’ve shot with either load, in those guns as described, have seemed to be reasonably accurate for self defense purposes.....with the +P bullets hitting a tad higher than the other.
Re: Hornady Critical Defense 9mm Ammo
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:56 am
by Soccerdad1995
1911 Raptor wrote:Federal HST LE
+1. This is my carry ammo in all of my semi-autos