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This weekend I looked at two shotguns I'm considering.

Keltec KSG and Panzer Arms AR12 gen 3.

Both look like they'd be a blast at the range. Especially the KSG with the short/Mini shells.

Do any of you have any experience with either?

I have two KSG's (looking to sell one soon). They are very fun guns and one sits in my bedside safe alongside my Tavor. Recoil is manageable, but you definitely know it is there. It's not a gun that I want to put a few hundred shells through at the range.

I chose the KSG for the HD role over a Standard MFG DP-12, which feels more substantial, but is a bit too heavy for my preference. Net-net, the KSG is about the perfect HD shotgun IMHO. Just throw a RDS on it.

I'm not familiar with the other shotgun you mentioned.