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California Farmer Arrested for Trying to Comply

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:21 am
by Lynyrd
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/0 ... ation-law/

There are several articles about this on the Internet, but I could not find a post on the forum. If there is already a post, Mods please delete this one.

It seems that a prominent farmer was simply trying to comply with the new California law regarding registration of his firearms. Instead, the state sent people to arrest him and confiscate his weapons. He is now facing jail time as a felon.

I guess the left wing nut jobs in Sacramento want to turn all gun owners into felons and lock them up.

Re: California Farmer Arrested for Trying to Comply

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:50 pm
by Allons
I'm trying to understand, why would you try to register an illegal gun on a website in a state that has some of the toughest gun laws in America. I think had he not tried to register this gun his home would not have been raided. As for 250 rounds of ammo... big deal I have 400 rounds in my nightstand, however, with the illegal gun and silencers I think it's not going to end well for him. I think they will use this news as a scare tactic to get people to comply.

Re: California Farmer Arrested for Trying to Comply

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:56 pm
by cmgee67
Someone needs to remind commyfornia what the 2nd amendment is. It’s to overthrow government like that piece of junk state.

Re: California Farmer Arrested for Trying to Comply

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:14 pm
by Soccerdad1995
And why exactly are we allowing California to claim that it is part of the United States?

Re: California Farmer Arrested for Trying to Comply

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:25 pm
by rotor
My younger lefty brother wanted me to send him some AR-15 magazines. I asked him what prison he wanted to serve his time in? If you looked at the recent primary maps of democrat vs republican areas you can see that a large surface area of the state is republican but the voter blocks are democrat. Unlikely to change. Will get worse in California and not better unless there is an armed revolution. I don't see that happening either.

Re: California Farmer Arrested for Trying to Comply

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:18 pm
by Liberty
Allons wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:50 pm I'm trying to understand, why would you try to register an illegal gun on a website in a state that has some of the toughest gun laws in America. I think had he not tried to register this gun his home would not have been raided. As for 250 rounds of ammo... big deal I have 400 rounds in my nightstand, however, with the illegal gun and silencers I think it's not going to end well for him. I think they will use this news as a scare tactic to get people to comply.
The leftists aren't seeking compliance, THey want us to live in fear of noncompliance. That's why they create the rapidly changing difficult rules and create them as felonies. The leftists' goal is to intimidate and make the peasants fear and cower before them. It's not an accident that gun shops fear abbreviations for street or avenue, or that our income taxes are so complicated that most people need a computer program or hire someone with a computer program, just to avoid prison sentences.
Fear is the leftist most powerful weapon.

Re: California Farmer Arrested for Trying to Comply

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:26 pm
by Allons
Liberty wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:18 pm
Allons wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:50 pm I'm trying to understand, why would you try to register an illegal gun on a website in a state that has some of the toughest gun laws in America. I think had he not tried to register this gun his home would not have been raided. As for 250 rounds of ammo... big deal I have 400 rounds in my nightstand, however, with the illegal gun and silencers I think it's not going to end well for him. I think they will use this news as a scare tactic to get people to comply.
The leftists aren't seeking compliance, THey want us to live in fear of noncompliance. That's why they create the rapidly changing difficult rules and create them as felonies. The leftists' goal is to intimidate and make the peasants fear and cower before them. It's not an accident that gun shops fear abbreviations for street or avenue, or that our income taxes are so complicated that most people need a computer program or hire someone with a computer program, just to avoid prison sentences.
Fear is the leftist most powerful weapon.
:iagree: I can see that, no argument here.

Re: California Farmer Arrested for Trying to Comply

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:42 pm
by chasfm11
I know that some aren't but I'm a fan of Ayn Rand. Her character in Atlas Shrugged said it best.
"We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them...you create a nation of lawbreakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Rearden." (2.2.3.39)

Re: California Farmer Arrested for Trying to Comply

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:22 pm
by ninjabread
Liberty wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:18 pm
Allons wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:50 pm I'm trying to understand, why would you try to register an illegal gun on a website in a state that has some of the toughest gun laws in America. I think had he not tried to register this gun his home would not have been raided. As for 250 rounds of ammo... big deal I have 400 rounds in my nightstand, however, with the illegal gun and silencers I think it's not going to end well for him. I think they will use this news as a scare tactic to get people to comply.
The leftists aren't seeking compliance, THey want us to live in fear of noncompliance. That's why they create the rapidly changing difficult rules and create them as felonies. The leftists' goal is to intimidate and make the peasants fear and cower before them. It's not an accident that gun shops fear abbreviations for street or avenue, or that our income taxes are so complicated that most people need a computer program or hire someone with a computer program, just to avoid prison sentences.
Fear is the leftist most powerful weapon.
They ought to be careful not to push too hard, too quickly, though. What's that old saying?

Oh, right.... 'After the first one, the rest are free.'

Re: California Farmer Arrested for Trying to Comply

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:58 pm
by crazy2medic
Know when they don't need to know!

Re: California Farmer Arrested for Trying to Comply

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:34 pm
by bigtek
crazy2medic wrote: Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:58 pm Know when they don't need to know!
:thumbs2: What they don't know can't hurt you.

Re: California Farmer Arrested for Trying to Comply

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:41 pm
by philip964
http://www.kget.com/news/local-news/mem ... 1186514586

Here is a link to a local news station.

Apparently you can register your guns by sending in photos. The photo he sent in showed to the State of California as illegal modifications, so that was used for a warrant. When his farm was raided they found 230 rounds of ammunition and two silencers. Enough for 12 felonies and $150,000 bond.

No gun laws are to stop crime, not to make criminals of honest citizens.

Re: California Farmer Arrested for Trying to Comply

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:18 am
by strogg
I'm kinda torn on this. I get it. He probably didn't quite understand the intricacies of the new laws, so he screwed up, which led to the raid. That is definitely stupid Kalifornistan punishing honest people to push a fascist agenda.

But at the same time, it is clear as day that it is illegal to have a suppressor in CA. It is also clear as day that he needs to fill out a Form 1 or 4 and get a tax stamp to have a suppressor. It is unclear whether he had the latter, but it doesn't matter since the former is all that is needed for a felony charge. Also, it is very well known in CA that any magazines over 10 rounds are now illegal to possess. If he knew the new assault-on-our-liberties law, he would know the magazine law too.

I despise Commifornia as much as the next person here, but the farmer should have known better with half of those charges.

As an aside, 230 rounds of ammo? That's it? Even with the stupid magazine laws, it's still only an hour's worth of shooting.

Re: California Farmer Arrested for Trying to Comply

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:25 am
by Allons
strogg wrote: Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:18 am I'm kinda torn on this. I get it. He probably didn't quite understand the intricacies of the new laws, so he screwed up, which led to the raid. That is definitely stupid Kalifornistan punishing honest people to push a fascist agenda.

But at the same time, it is clear as day that it is illegal to have a suppressor in CA. It is also clear as day that he needs to fill out a Form 1 or 4 and get a tax stamp to have a suppressor. It is unclear whether he had the latter, but it doesn't matter since the former is all that is needed for a felony charge. Also, it is very well known in CA that any magazines over 10 rounds are now illegal to possess. If he knew the new assault-on-our-liberties law, he would know the magazine law too.

I despise Commifornia as much as the next person here, but the farmer should have known better with half of those charges.

As an aside, 230 rounds of ammo? That's it? Even with the stupid magazine laws, it's still only an hour's worth of shooting.
:iagree: :iagree:

Re: California Farmer Arrested for Trying to Comply

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:40 am
by Soldev