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Pun intended. Didn't see it elsewhere. AG news blast.

AG Paxton Commends 5th Circuit Decision Upholding Campus Carry Law

AUSTIN – Attorney General Ken Paxton today commended a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit after it upheld a lower court’s dismissal of a lawsuit by three University of Texas at Austin professors who challenged Senate Bill 11, the campus carry law. The professors claimed that the legislation passed by the Texas Legislature in 2015 would have a “chilling effect” and stifle discussion in their classrooms.

“The lawsuit was filed because the professors disagreed with the law, not because they had any legal substance to their claim,” Attorney General Paxton said. “The right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed for all Americans, including college students, and the 5th Circuit’s decision prevents that right from being stripped away by three individuals who oppose the law enacted by the Legislature.”

In July 2017, a U.S. District Court dismissed the professors’ complaints on the grounds that they were baseless and without legal standing. Senate Bill 11 took effect August 1, 2016.

I hope the defendants recover their legal costs from the plaintiffs.

same in GA
Georgia professors' attempt to invalidate the state's campus carry law fails.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/0 ... law-fails/

apostate wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:38 pm I hope the defendants recover their legal costs from the plaintiffs.

So do I. If it happened more often, it might cut down on some of these crazy lawsuits.

apostate wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:38 pm I hope the defendants recover their legal costs from the plaintiffs.

I’d settle for them being fired and never allowed to work in education again.

krieghoff wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:05 pm

apostate wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:38 pm I hope the defendants recover their legal costs from the plaintiffs.

So do I. If it happened more often, it might cut down on some of these crazy lawsuits.

I wonder how much all of this cost the taxpayer. Those courts are not free.

bblhd672 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:32 pm

apostate wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:38 pm I hope the defendants recover their legal costs from the plaintiffs.

I’d settle for them being fired and never allowed to work in education again.

THIS! Don't let them try to brainwash anymore of our young adults.

Does the overt bias against conservative thought "stifle discussion in their ckasstooms"? Possibly, since even leaders in the field are worried about it: http://theweek.com/articles/441474/how- ... al-science.

Lynyrd wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:15 pm

bblhd672 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:32 pm

apostate wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:38 pm I hope the defendants recover their legal costs from the plaintiffs.

I’d settle for them being fired and never allowed to work in education again.

THIS! Don't let them try to brainwash anymore of our young adults.

I think it would be a special kind of hell for them to _have_ to go back in their classroom and discuss their controversial subjects, knowing someone in the room might be carrying.

oohrah wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:45 pm

Lynyrd wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:15 pm

bblhd672 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:32 pm

apostate wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:38 pm I hope the defendants recover their legal costs from the plaintiffs.

I’d settle for them being fired and never allowed to work in education again.

THIS! Don't let them try to brainwash anymore of our young adults.

I think it would be a special kind of hell for them to _have_ to go back in their classroom and discuss their controversial subjects, knowing someone in the room might be carrying.

I always, wondered, what they are discussing, that would cause students, whether LTC holders, or not, to want to shoot them? Also, what has kept them from being shot, up until now? Do they believe, no one would shoot them just because it was against the law to bring a gun to their class, before campus carry was passed?
Maybe, before they became educators ( and I use that term loosely) they should have become more educated. JMHO

Jusme wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:27 am
I always, wondered, what they are discussing, that would cause students, whether LTC holders, or not, to want to shoot them? Also, what has kept them from being shot, up until now? Do they believe, no one would shoot them just because it was against the law to bring a gun to their class, before campus carry was passed?
Maybe, before they became educators ( and I use that term loosely) they should have become more educated. JMHO

Time magazine has run several articles on this subject. Here is one
http://time.com/4237638/campus-carry-te ... versities/

There was another that I cannot find right now by a TWU sociology professor who claimed that she had been bullied by her students over grades and that she feared that she would have to give everyone As because of the possibility that they were armed. I have no doubt about students confronting her regarding their grades. Given the entitlement mentality among some of the student age population, it wouldn't be surprising. Sociology appears to be a study in numbers so one would expect the professors who teach it to be based in facts. But given the capricious manner in which at least some professors seem to approach facts and reality, the students might have a reason to challenge her if she takes a similar approach to grading their work. The oppression by professors against anyone with Conservative ideas could also be a factor. In that case, there was an old saying about "hoist on their own petard".

Liberal tenured professors in our colleges is a real threat to this country. Have you ever read comments by students on the site “ratemyprofessor”? Some conservative students stating they endure hour lectures on gun rights, etc, instead of the English class they signed up for. It’s disgusting that unuiversites allow these liberal educators to get away with this. Yes, California, I’m talking about you!

Jusme wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:27 am I always, wondered, what they are discussing, that would cause students, whether LTC holders, or not, to want to shoot them? Also, what has kept them from being shot, up until now? Do they believe, no one would shoot them just because it was against the law to bring a gun to their class, before campus carry was passed?
Maybe, before they became educators ( and I use that term loosely) they should have become more educated. JMHO

It isn't so much what they are discussing as how they are discussing it. Many professors lack the most basic of interpersonal relationship skills. They needle and pick at their students until they have created discord, and then end class, proud of themselves for opening up the class to something "new and controversial". These professors were never in control, they simply pushed until the students pushed back - kind of like teasing a dog through the fence. To these teachers, campus carry looks like the teased dog learning to open the gate.

Talented teachers can manipulate a class discussion to create a healthy and productive amount of tension, which is useful in building interest and raising students' level of concern, and then relieve that tension before wrapping up and releasing class. Everybody learns something and leaves feeling successful instead of abused.

I agree that this particular batch of yahoos should reimburse the state for its time and expense, and then be dismissed from their positions.

Jeff