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by jimlongley
Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:28 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Open-Carry is a right, but concealed carry is not?
Replies: 52
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Re: Open-Carry is a right, but concealed carry is not?

mr.72 wrote:
Oldgringo wrote: Yes sir, Mr. TAM! That's what I thought you said and I am in agreement with you.

Some sort of screening process must take place to assure the general public and others (me) that those who carry, whether inside or outside of their britches, are qualified to legally do so. In the case of our conceal carry priviledge/right, that screening process is consumated with our CHL.
I don't want to speak for Ye Olde Annoyed One, but I do believe I am in agreement with him in not advocating any requirement for a license of any sort to carry a gun in whatever way you see fit.

I disagree categorically with your statement: "Some sort of screening process must take place to assure the general public and others (me) that those who carry, whether inside or outside of their britches, are qualified to legally do so". Why apply this screening process to the one and only right that is enumerated in the Constitution with the words "shall not be infringed"? I personally believe that the founding fathers wrote those four words in there for precisely the reason that they knew of the temptation to require some kind of screening or selection of who has the right to keep and bear arms, and they wanted to make it absolutely certain that such efforts were strictly forbidden.

As far as the original topic of this thread, I agree that the text of the 2nd Amendment is plainly what it is. Your right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Period. Doesn't matter open carry, concealed, in your underpants or one gun in each hand wherever you go. It's all the very same right. So I guess that means I disagree with whatever OC proponents there are who might suggest that open carry is a right, but concealed carry is not. There's no difference. That's like saying free speech is a right, but free thought is not.
I agree, why MUST we have such a system? To placate the masses? To keep from upsetting someone? To keep from upsetting you?

I'm sorry, I don't see anywhere in the Constitution where you have the right to decide whether I can carry a gun or not, only that the right shall not be infringed.

Licensing is an infringement, pure and simple, the only MUST is that the government MUST get its hands off our rights.
by jimlongley
Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:22 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Open-Carry is a right, but concealed carry is not?
Replies: 52
Views: 8048

Re: Open-Carry is a right, but concealed carry is not?

I feel that any governmental entity licensing us to do something is tantamount to that something being a privilege allowed by that entity. Somewhere along the way to where we are, we allowed the government to reduce our right to keep and bear arms to one of those granted priviliges, and I think that we should return to a standard where law abiding citizens are recognized as having that right and carry firearms, openly or concealed, as an exercise of that right.

Unlicensed open carry with licensed concealed carry is an anethma to our exercise of our rights protected by the Second Amendment.

Vermont style carry nationwide is my personal desire and I feel it should be all of our long term goal.

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