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by Shinesintx
Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:57 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open carry (in the home) and door to door sales?
Replies: 50
Views: 5833

Re: Open carry (in the home) and door to door sales?

speedsix wrote:
punkndisorderly wrote:Answering the door, gun in hand, and visible could cause problems. If you don't know the person, or aren't reasonably sure they're legit (ex: wearing a public works uniform and driving a city truck), just don't answer.

If someone does want to be a jerk, and calls 911 and accuses you of threatening or whatever, the cops are going to figure the person who calls is the good guy. When they show up, and you're armed, you've given them more indication that their assumption is correct. Then you can expect at least some unwanted attention. Maybe a LOT of it.

...no sale...been in Texas almost 30 years...never had that reaction...have found cops at the door several times with my .45 in my belt and invited 'em in and poured the coffee...and didn't know 'em...and they didn't know me...no problem...no questions...no adverse reaction...there's a lot more to a person for a cop to assess than does he have a gun on...and our cops seem to judge the situation much better than in your what-if world...as for hiding in my house and not opening the door if I don't know someone...get real, I can't believe grown men live that way...

...yeah, you use your head...yeah, you be careful and alert...but you don't live in fear and worried about what-if this and what-if that...that's not really living...I get so sick of these dark and dismal predictions...when 62 years of life experience haven't presented any of these horrible things...the sky AIN'T fallin'...at least 'round MY house...life is good...
Good post. Seriously good post.
by Shinesintx
Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:00 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open carry (in the home) and door to door sales?
Replies: 50
Views: 5833

Re: Open carry (in the home) and door to door sales?

Thanks for the postings! It makes a bit more sense now.
by Shinesintx
Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:31 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open carry (in the home) and door to door sales?
Replies: 50
Views: 5833

Re: Open carry (in the home) and door to door sales?

Beiruty wrote:There is no brandishing law in TX as far as I know. There is a aggravated deadly assault or attempt of aggravated deadly assault, when someone point a handgun as someone for no justified reason.
If there is no brandishing law in Tx, what do they get ya for if one is say...carrying at 2:30, lifts their shirt and shows the goods?
by Shinesintx
Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:22 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open carry (in the home) and door to door sales?
Replies: 50
Views: 5833

Re: Open carry (in the home) and door to door sales?

sugar land dave wrote:As another member says in their signature, never show your hole card before it is time to do so. Concealed carry has some advantages over openly showing the possession and placement of defensive firearm. Answering the door, you are at a disadvantage due to the other person already being within your 21 foot reaction zone. Concealed in your hand behind your back would be better than open on your hip.
I fully agree with the bolded statement.

But, if the gun is in your hand...and they see it...is that considered brandishing? I really do not know. Can hand carry be considered open carry on ones property, thus negating brandishing?
by Shinesintx
Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:39 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open carry (in the home) and door to door sales?
Replies: 50
Views: 5833

Re: Open carry (in the home) and door to door sales?

apostate wrote:
Shinesintx wrote:
apostate wrote:If they can legally possess the firearm, they can legally carry it at home. There's no requirement to conceal when on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control.

I don't know what would have happened if the Okie was openly wearing a sidearm, but someone with a crystal ball will be along shortly. :lol:
It did not happen in Oklahoma, I just happen to do some reading concerning CCW...because I travel there.

The thread that got me thinking was this one: "First time to threaten use of gun"

I am just wondering if he would have been open carrying on his property, would open carry have prevented the guy coming at him. Also wondering if I should start answering the door while open carrying. Is it legal? Is it prudent?
There's no legal requirement in Texas to conceal when on your own premises or premises under your control. I won't even hazard a guess at prudence, because what's prudent for one person/situation may be ill advised for another.
I get it that you dont want to take a stab at prudence...but having a dialogue about it could be beneficial for others. I kinda like the idea of open carry while answering the door...but admit that I could be easily swayed if someone were to disagree and explain why.

I dont want to start a flame war, I am just seeking council.
by Shinesintx
Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:23 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open carry (in the home) and door to door sales?
Replies: 50
Views: 5833

Re: Open carry (in the home) and door to door sales?

apostate wrote:If they can legally possess the firearm, they can legally carry it at home. There's no requirement to conceal when on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control.

I don't know what would have happened if the Okie was openly wearing a sidearm, but someone with a crystal ball will be along shortly. :lol:
It did not happen in Oklahoma, I just happen to do some reading concerning CCW...because I travel there.

The thread that got me thinking was this one: "First time to threaten use of gun"

I am just wondering if he would have been open carrying on his property, would open carry have prevented the guy coming at him. Also wondering if I should start answering the door while open carrying. Is it legal? Is it prudent?
by Shinesintx
Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:03 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Open carry (in the home) and door to door sales?
Replies: 50
Views: 5833

Open carry (in the home) and door to door sales?

Earlier, I was reading Oklahoma law...and came across something interesting. In Oklahoma, you can open carry to your vehicle and to the range. This open carry includes ones property.

In a thread where the OP had an altercation with a door to door bad guy, the Ok law got me to thinking.

Open carry at the time the OP had his interaction with the door to door guy...may have prevented this altercation?

Is the law the same in Texas? Can I answer the door with a gun on my hip? Or, would that be brandishing? Maybe I was headed to my vehicle on my property...when the doorbell rang? I guess the answer will depend on what Texas law is?

I know that in some gun forums, there is usually someone who will post "open carry would have prevented this"...but in this case, would it have prevented anything?

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