Here is a story that covers both incidents this thread is intermingling.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1414668" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The troopers in the Addison case have both been fired, not rehired, and have charges pending on them. In late June, Dobbs and her attorneys settled their case for $184,000. Criminal trials against Helleson and Farrell are pending.
The Brazoria County case was investigated and nothing improper was found beyond “rookie mistake” and have since been rehired.
I find it odd the troopers can violate two women on the side of the road, one in North Texas and the other in South Texas, and claim it isn’t a policy. I also find it odd that the North Texas white women being violated leads to charges against the offending officer, while the South Texas black women’s attacker is rehired by the department. I usually don’t scream racism at every inconsistency, but this one has me wondering.
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- Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:33 pm
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- Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:22 pm
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There are two different incidents in this thread which makes it even more confusing. The first event happened in Addison in Dallas or Collin County. The other one happened in Brazoria County. Even the Chronicle in the story of the trooper being rehired has the video of the Addison, but is talking about the Brazoria County incident.
Now this thread is so convoluted that I don't know who claims what, who has been fired, rehired, indicted, or wrist slapped. Someone is probably getting off scot free.
I think it is a conspiracy by the DPS to cause confusion so someone can keep their job. /tinfoil
Now this thread is so convoluted that I don't know who claims what, who has been fired, rehired, indicted, or wrist slapped. Someone is probably getting off scot free.
I think it is a conspiracy by the DPS to cause confusion so someone can keep their job. /tinfoil
- Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:43 pm
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I have a son who is majoring in Math and Economics you would probably like.Dave2 wrote:Just to complete the thread drift, you two realize that it's impossible to be more than 100%, right? Because 100% means "out of a maximum possible 'score' of 100, this is rates a <whatever>". But it's important to note that <whatever> can't be higher than 100. It's like the people who say they put in 110% of their effort... well, no, they just weren't giving 100% before, so the increase makes it look like they're giving more than 100% even though they aren't. (I had this same debate with my 5th grade history teacher when I got 105% on a test due to some extra credit; she didn't get it either... Everyone's always dismissive of the math pedantics... <sigh>)texanjoker wrote:[...]I am 210 % leo as well[...]carlson1 wrote:[...]I am 210% LEO.[...]
- Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:37 pm
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Also from the link,JALLEN wrote:http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/12/19/troo ... suspended/IRVING (CBSDFW.COM) - A Texas State Trooper who was thrust into the spotlight Tuesday after dash camera video showing her giving body cavity searches to two women became public has been suspended.
Trooper Kelly Helleson was suspended Wednesday, the day after the two women she searched as part of a traffic stop earlier this year sued her and another trooper for what they called a violation of their privacy.
Commit sexual assault, get a paid vacation. I'm sure it's kinda a bummer for her that she may get fired, but at least she's getting paid.The Texas Department of Public Safety, the state organization who State Troopers work for, say Helleson was put on paid suspension pending the outcome of an investigation into the incident and the lawsuit.
- Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:14 pm
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This sickens me to my very core. There is no reasonable excuse to violate a woman (or a man) on the side of the road, and coming up with nothing proves this is no more than jack-booted thugs gone wild. With more reports of DPS troopers acting in this fashion, doing serial number searches without cause, slamming suspected drunk drivers into concrete walls, and my own run in when a DPS trooper pulled me over for "disregarding a stop sign" that I sat at for 30-45 seconds before proceeding, I am quickly losing all respect I had for the DPS.
This appears to be an us vs. them where we have our rights violated and they may or may not be reprimanded for it. I am a "civilian" who isn't privy to the inner workings of law enforcement, but as suggested earlier in this thread the DPS are considered the top tier of the LE community in Texas. This may or may not be factual and I am having more doubt about this as we see these issues cropping up with DPS troopers, but it is/was the perception none the less. When these folks are routinely violating our rights, putting women in danger of infection, running gun serial numbers without cause, and Trooper Arturo Perez slamming the woman into a concrete wall because she tried to pull away while handcuffed, it not only affects the perception of the DPS, but of all law enforcement overall.
Maybe these women did not know the phrase, "I do not consent to searches", but it seems this trooper has smelled pot so that would be considered probable cause and no consent would be needed. There is still a line there that need not be crossed, and roadside sexual assault would be over that line. If there are no drugs in the car, then even if they have a joint hidden in their orifice cut them loose and call it a night. Making body cavities searches routine on the side of the road goes against ever fiber of my being, and is in direct opposition of the clear and plain language of the Fourth Amendment, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated."
I hope these women prevail in their lawsuit, and I hope that the powers that be at the DPS are hung out to dry, fired, stripped of any responsibility, sent to jail, and someone with a little common sense instilled who will stop these activities and put the DPS back on top of Texas law enforcement.
Were I in this position I would state that I do not consent to searches, and when the hand starts down my underwear I would react enough to be taken to jail, but hopefully not enough to be tazed, knee in the neck, and cuffed and stuffed. But I will willingly go to jail to be searched in the proper manner, and then they can do with me as they please, my lawyer will be happy to hear from me.
This appears to be an us vs. them where we have our rights violated and they may or may not be reprimanded for it. I am a "civilian" who isn't privy to the inner workings of law enforcement, but as suggested earlier in this thread the DPS are considered the top tier of the LE community in Texas. This may or may not be factual and I am having more doubt about this as we see these issues cropping up with DPS troopers, but it is/was the perception none the less. When these folks are routinely violating our rights, putting women in danger of infection, running gun serial numbers without cause, and Trooper Arturo Perez slamming the woman into a concrete wall because she tried to pull away while handcuffed, it not only affects the perception of the DPS, but of all law enforcement overall.
Maybe these women did not know the phrase, "I do not consent to searches", but it seems this trooper has smelled pot so that would be considered probable cause and no consent would be needed. There is still a line there that need not be crossed, and roadside sexual assault would be over that line. If there are no drugs in the car, then even if they have a joint hidden in their orifice cut them loose and call it a night. Making body cavities searches routine on the side of the road goes against ever fiber of my being, and is in direct opposition of the clear and plain language of the Fourth Amendment, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated."
I hope these women prevail in their lawsuit, and I hope that the powers that be at the DPS are hung out to dry, fired, stripped of any responsibility, sent to jail, and someone with a little common sense instilled who will stop these activities and put the DPS back on top of Texas law enforcement.
Were I in this position I would state that I do not consent to searches, and when the hand starts down my underwear I would react enough to be taken to jail, but hopefully not enough to be tazed, knee in the neck, and cuffed and stuffed. But I will willingly go to jail to be searched in the proper manner, and then they can do with me as they please, my lawyer will be happy to hear from me.
- Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:14 am
- Forum: The Crime Blotter
- Topic: DPS performing roadside cavity searches!
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It’s funny, we will prescribe powerful and dangerous psych drugs to children as young as kindergarten age like it’s candy; little Johnny doesn't want to go to school, isn't learning, feels anxious, is sad, restless, rebellious? Take this pill. It will help calm him down a little, really it’s nothing to be concerned with.
At the same time LEO does searches inside the underwear of grown women on the side of the road because someone smelled what they thought was pot.
What a world we live in.
At the same time LEO does searches inside the underwear of grown women on the side of the road because someone smelled what they thought was pot.
What a world we live in.