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by casingpoint
Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:03 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Can I use force if..
Replies: 47
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Re: Can I use force if..

Many will argue that morally, KILLING someone over a wallet, or microwave is unconscionable
Precisely what criminologist David Klinger describes in his book Into The Kill Zone:

"Many officers choose standards for pulling the trigger that are more restrictive than those set forth in law and administrative directives."

From "Into The Kill Zone"--A cops eye view of deadly force. All about cops who shot and those that didn't, cops who got shot, training to shoot, and the personal aftermath of it all.
by casingpoint
Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:36 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Can I use force if..
Replies: 47
Views: 5163

Re: Can I use force if..

if you shoot a fleeing suspect who poses no threat to you in the back for stealing your wallet...I would convict
Texas law says I can shoot 'em. Yet, you would convict me. You sound like the kind of juror that Harold Fish had too many of. Because of them, he is now serving the third year of a ten year sentence he did not deserve.

I was on a jury once. Manslaughter charge. It was clearly self defense, and there were omissions apparent indicating that perhaps someone other than the defendant even shot the deceased, who incidentally needed killing. There were no witnesses to the actual shooting.

The D.A. office didn't even bother to get a ballistics match on the gun and bullet.

Despite the lack of evidence, some doubted. You could see it in their eyes during the deliberations.

Thou Shalt Not Kill. No matter what.

It was close, but the guy walked.
by casingpoint
Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:39 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Can I use force if..
Replies: 47
Views: 5163

Re: Can I use force if..

you would have to believe that the items in your wallet could not be replaced/recovered
The statute does not use the word recovered, nor does is equate replacement with recovery. The two are not the same. I believe shankpile is right. In Texas, you have a license to use deadly force under certain circumstances already made plain.

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