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Walkin' Jack wrote:For me the baby glocks are just too big and heavy for pants pocket carry. I assume the OP was meaning pants pocket but didn't specify such. I have a couple of heavy jackets that I can carry my every day carry, my Glock-36. But getting back to the concept of pants pocket carry I've tried a few mouse guns and my fave, and the one I carry, is the Kel-Tec P-32. I know lots of folks like the .380 but IMHO that just has to much bark and not enough bite.

I am not sure I follow you: a 65-71gr, .309" diameter bullet (800-933gr/sq") moving at 900-925 fps is supposed to have more "bite" than a 90-95gr, .355" diameter bullet (909-960gr/sq") moving at 980-1000 fps? I just lifted those numbers from Wikipedia, so if someone knows these are wrong, I will defer to your findings.

Walkin' Jack wrote:I can handle my littel P-32 much more effectively, accurately, comfortably and quietly. I'll never use it at any distance beyond 10' and I'm quite confident in head shots at that distance with that gun. I can have 8 in a bad guys face before he can finish telling me he wants my wallet.

I must admit it sounds like you have a really nice pair of dragon-blocking sunglasses*.

*term borrowed from Marc "Animal" MacYoung

For the purpose of GET OFF OF ME, NOW!, I would prefer to use the snubby .38 revolver over the LCP, because when things go hands-on, the semi-automatic's slide could be pushed out of battery and/or the magazine could get ejected in rough handling/grappling, leaving you with a capacity of one round until you can obtain a reload or the ejected magazine. The snubby's barrel is fixed, and its cylinder can get temporarily immobilized, but seems more likely to retain whatever capacity it has when subjected to grappling forces. (For the cylinder to lose its live rounds, the cylinder would have to be pushed out from the frame while the cylinder latch is simultaneously disengaged, then the barrel would have to be tipped upward; ejecting a semiautomatic's magazine only requires pushing a button while the stocks/grip is pointing down.)

Aside from this bad-breath range application, semi-automatics look much better than revolvers.

Excaliber wrote:

Xander wrote:

Excaliber wrote: I don't own one, but I've seen lots of reports that indicate quality control is not consistent. Lots of folks report intermittent failures to feed, failures to eject, and even broken parts after very small numbers of rounds fired. For me, that takes the little KelTecs out of the running for life saving equipment. The Ruger LCP and the new Kahr 380 look like much better equipment in the same size / power category.

The reports I've seen on the LCP so far seem to mirror the P3AT reports. Some folks have problems with them, some don't. <Shrug />

In my experience, smaller guns are often more temperamental than the larger ones.

Skiprr wrote:For regular carry, I like calibers that begin with a "4".