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Tecumseh wrote:But why doesn't the church sell of the treasures of the Vatican and do more as Jesus commanded?

chuck j wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote:People who flatly state that they would pay more taxes need to do so. Put up or shut up. If you want to feed the leeches more money then send a check to the IRS. Maybe send it to barry to dole out to one of his orks.

Sheesh.

More libtard trash talk.

Please spare us your platitudes and rhetoric. I have heard enough.

Anygunanywhere

Come on lighten up anygunanywhere , cb1000rider is an ok guy , some folks just have a hard time making tough decisions .

VMI77 wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote: How long have you worked for ACORN?

Anygunanywhere

I don't get it, this is a gun forum, where are all these collectivists coming from?

Tecumseh wrote:I for one am tired of the public roads. Congress should not be paying for them nor should it be paying social security, welfare, disability, for a standing army, for the FDA, for any sort of agricultural subsidies, no oil subsidies, no research for any sciences, no disaster relief, or any of that. The biggest form of welfare is going to states. http://247wallst.com/2012/08/03/states- ... l-money/2/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; The majority of those states are GOP controlled states. A Fox Business article citing the same states: http://247wallst.com/2012/08/03/states- ... l-money/2/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It is nice to see that the Obama administration got it right when they turned Texas down for FEMA relief after the fertilizer plant exploded.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/23/us/fe ... d=all&_r=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Isn't it?

I am sorry but in reality I have no problem with the government using money to help others. It is easy to complain about welfare recipients buying steaks or having expensive cars, phones, or TV sets but how do you know they didn't have them before they got on the welfare? And why aren't we complaining about subsidies to companies and corporations? Corporations are people and it is insane to see some "people" get billions of dollars of tax money and not complain about it but do complain when another person gets a few thousand a year to eat with. Isn't it?

cb1000rider wrote:

anygunanywhere wrote: A large percentage of illegals do not want to be citizens. A large percentage of those who will be granted amnesty are now or will become welfare recipients. When they are granted voting rights they will continue to vote for their money.

I'm curious if you can reference the facts that these statements are based on?

anygunanywhere wrote: Even if they work and start to pay taxes , few of them will ever get to the point of paying in more taxes than they consume in welafare. Remember, the lower 47% of wageearners do not pay taxes - they receive earned income credits which is in and of itself welfare.

Again, I question the statements of fact here. Every "illegal" that I've met came to the USA to work, not for welfare, but that's beside the point.

The truth is that undocumented (illegal) immigrants are not eligible for public welfare benefits. Ever. There may be an exception granted if they have a child in the US (US citizen), but they can't show up here illegally and receive public assistance outside of emergency medical care.

Legal immigrants have to pay into the system for 10 years before they become eligible for government assistance.

And it's hard to get earned income tax credits if you don't file taxes because you don't have a social security number.

I'm not against having a rational discussion here... But we've got to keep it factual.

Surprise, surprise; Census Bureau data reveals that most U.S. families headed by illegal immigrants use taxpayer-funded welfare programs on behalf of their American-born anchor babies.Even before the recession, immigrant households with children used welfare programs at consistently higher rates than natives, according to the extensive census data collected and analyzed by a nonpartisanWashington D.C. group dedicated to researching legal and illegal immigration in the U.S.

The results, published this month in a lengthy report, are hardly surprising.Basically, the majority of households across the country benefitting from publicly-funded welfare programs are headed by immigrants, both legal and illegal. States where immigrant households with children have the highest welfare use rates are Arizona (62%), Texas, California and New York with 61% each and Pennsylvania(59%).The study focused on eight major welfare programs that cost the government $517 billion the year they were examined.

Agency also assigned 15,796 taxpayer IDS to ‘unauthorized aliens’ at single residence

(CNS News) – The Internal Revenue Service sent 23,994 tax refunds worth a combined $46,378,040 to “unauthorized” alien workers who all used the same address in Atlanta, Ga., in 2011, according to the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA).

That was not the only Atlanta address theoretically occupied by thousands of “unauthorized” alien workers receiving millions in federal tax refunds in 2011. In fact, according to a TIGTA audit report published last year, four of the top ten addresses to which the IRS sent thousands of tax refunds to “unauthorized” aliens were in Atlanta.