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jbirds1210 wrote: Safe gun handling should have not be taught on the day of qualification.

Fine. But if someone doesn't already know safe gun handling, they should FLUNK the qualification, no matter what score they shoot.

jbirds1210 wrote: Expecting gun handling lessons at the CHL course is roughly the equivalent of expecting a driving lesson from the DPS employee giving a driving test...it just isn't the way it is supposed to happen.

As long as people who do not know how to safely handle their guns are flunked, I have no problem with that.

HighVelocity wrote:

And the class I took was completely inadequate as to instructing people in safe handling of their guns.

Is it the instructors job to teach people how to operate their weapons?

If it isn't, it should be.

HighVelocity wrote: If you're going to get a CHL, you should already be well versed in the ways of safe gun handling BEFORE you get to the class.

Of course you should. That's the ideal. But in the real world, what if someone is not "well versed in the ways of safe gun handling" before he gets to class? Should that person pass and get his CHL? Or should they fail, and have to re-take the class after getting remedial instruction?

Believe me, out of a couple of hundred thousand people holding CHL's, some of them are not "well versed in the ways of safe gun handling" when they show up for class. So for these people I ask, "What is the right thing to do?"

I understand that accidents are very rare. So whatever we are doing now can't be all that bad.

But I think that if someone is going to carry a concealed handgun while sharing the street or the mall with me and my family, they should be required to know how to safely handle their gun.

Liberty wrote:

Photoman wrote:
Lets face it, most people out there carrying guns are not "gun people" and would be MUCH safer with a good double-action revolver.

I don't buy this. If the 4 rules are followed. Any modern gun is safe to carry. Guns aren't dangerous, people are. The SA/NSA distinction in our CHL laws is stupid.

Photoman isn't saying that the guns (SA's) are "less safe". He is saying that some people are less safe with them.

The SA/NSA distinction in the carry law might be debateable. But there is no doubt whatsoever that revolvers are easier to handle than SA's, easier to check and verify "clear", have fewer controls (to confuse someone with) and are more easily mastered by people with limited upper body strength who may have difficulty racking a slide.

At my recent CHL renewal class, there was an idiot who couldn't figure out how to lock the slide back on the gun he was getting ready to qualify with. While asking for help, he is sweeping the muzzle all over the place, including (briefly) in MY direction.

As stupid as this guy was, he would be less likely to be "stumped" by the cylinder release of a revolver.

And the class I took was completely inadequate as to instructing people in safe handling of their guns.

I am amazed that the number of actual accidental shootings is as low as it is.