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by CleverNickname
Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:25 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: How does one legally manufacture a supressor?
Replies: 27
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Re: How does one legally manufacture a supressor?

frankie_the_yankee wrote: I haven't read the federal law myself yet (and wouldn't trust my own interpretation even after doing so), but I believe the part that refers to having the parts needed to make one being equivalent to having the unit itself applies only if you have ALL the parts, or nearly all of them. For instance, a baffle might be a metal disk with a hole in the center, and maybe a few other holes here and there. The supressor might take 5 of them. But no one is going to convince me that if I happen to have a metal disk in my garage with a hole in the middle, AND NO OTHER SUPRESSOR PARTS, that BATFE is going to raid my house and drag me off to prison for having an unregistered supressor.
Here's the relevant law, 18 USC 921(a)(24).
(24) The terms “firearm silencer� and “firearm muffler� mean any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.
Emphasis mine. Of course, just having some large washers that theoretically could be used as improvised baffles isn't illegal in and of itself, but if the BATFE happened to find out that someone had some washers and had reason to believe that they were planning on building an unregistered suppressor, then yes they could and probably would try to haul them into court, whether the suppressor had actually been built or not.
by CleverNickname
Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:56 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: How does one legally manufacture a supressor?
Replies: 27
Views: 3781

Re: How does one legally manufacture a supressor?

Kalrog wrote:I am pretty sure that making it a threaded barrel does not mean it has to have a tax stamp. But many people thread on a suppressor to an SBR and then they both do need a stamp.
Correct. A rifle with a <16" barrel or <26" OAL is a title II firearm. A rifle with a >16" barrel and >26" OAL and a threaded barrel is not a title II firearm. A permanently attached sound suppressor is counted towards the barrel length of a rifle, just like a permanently attached flash suppressor is counted towards the barrel length of a rifle.

IMO though if you're going to spend the money to get a suppressor, permanently attaching it is pretty stupid.
by CleverNickname
Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:50 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: How does one legally manufacture a supressor?
Replies: 27
Views: 3781

Re: How does one legally manufacture a supressor?

KD5NRH wrote:IIRC, the main body tube is the registered part for a silencer, (i.e. it's the part your Form 1 applies to) so it should be possible to make it in such a way that you can try several different kinds of internals without having to deal with the paperwork and tax every time. Double-check that in writing with ATF before risking it, though.
The body is typically the registered part, but the BATFE considers baffles also to be suppressors in and of themselves. You should only have one set of baffles per suppressor, otherwise the BATFE will consider the extra baffles to be an unregistered suppressor.

So yes, you could try out different types of baffles but you'd need to destroy one set prior to making another set.

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