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by CleverNickname
Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:55 pm
Forum: 2017 Legislative Wish List
Topic: 2017 Legislative Priorities
Replies: 200
Views: 74248

Re: 2017 Legislative Priorities

Pawpaw wrote:
Hoodasnacks wrote:Interesting, that would be a bad unintended consequence. Perhaps the answer is to create 2 classes of LTC, one for 18-21, the other for 21+. I wouldn't like any additional restrictions, but there are probably some that people could stomach to get it through (e.g. taking into account different juvenile behavior in the background check, additional forfeiture circumstances). The law should certainly be more narrowly tailored than just a 21 year old age cutoff. Imagine if a 20 year old didn't get 4th amendment protections....
CleverNickname wrote:The solution is to make two legally distinct types of LTCs. One would be for 18-20 year olds, and the other would be for >=21 year olds. Other states will be free to recognize none, one or both. Some states currently have tiered licenses (Idaho and Mississippi come to mind) and some other states only recognize the higher tiered license, so this just isn't theoretical.
Two different licenses would not work either. The other state will not rely on the police to determine which license is valid in that state. Instead, they will just deny all Texas licenses. The path of least resistance... for them.
Did you miss where I said that other states have tiered licenses, which have accomplished exactly what would be intended if we did this?
by CleverNickname
Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:16 pm
Forum: 2017 Legislative Wish List
Topic: 2017 Legislative Priorities
Replies: 200
Views: 74248

Re: 2017 Legislative Priorities

Pawpaw wrote:
Hoodasnacks wrote:Lower on the priority list, but I'd like to see an 18+ requirement for LTC instead of 21. College campuses are not the safest of places (as we saw last week at UT), and most attendees are underage for LTC purposes. The girl that was killed last week was 18.

I know a 20 year old kid that was an eagle scout, served a 2-year mission abroad serving others, etc., that is about to start at A&M. The second amendment applies to him as much as to me. Seems like his rights are being infringed.
I agree with your reasoning, but disagree about lowering the minimum age. One "unintended consequence" of lowering the minimum age is that some states will no longer recognize a Texas LTC. That has already happened with one or two states, just because the minimum age for military is 18.

While everything you said about college campuses and students is correct (IMHO), the potential of losing reciprocity could harm even more people.
The solution is to make two legally distinct types of LTCs. One would be for 18-20 year olds, and the other would be for >=21 year olds. Other states will be free to recognize none, one or both. Some states currently have tiered licenses (Idaho and Mississippi come to mind) and some other states only recognize the higher tiered license, so this just isn't theoretical.

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