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BigGuy wrote:Somehow I wound up on another mailing list. TXGR (Texas Gun Rights.) I just got an email where they are ranting about SB17 (See in part below.)

They are painting Dan patrick as an anti gun, and calling SB-17 a step in the wrong direction.



I don't send that much money out. How do I wind up on these whacky mailing lists?

The state Senate, wrangled by Lt. Governor Dan Patrick, passed a limp-wristed Open Carry bill (S.B. 17) full of anti-gun restrictions.

They’re hoping gun rights activists will be appeased and finally leave them alone.

You see, tens of thousands of Texans have contacted their legislators in recent months demanding Constitutional Carry.

And we’re not going to fall for this!

S.B.17 is far from the true pro-gun reform Texas needs, and is arguably a step in the wrong direction as it increases the government’s power to license away our rights.

That’s why it’s vital that you call Dan Patrick TODAY at (512) 463-0001 and demand that he give Constitutional Carry a vote!

Don’t you think gun rights supporters have a right to know who those anti-gun Senators are?

AJSully421 wrote:

jmra wrote:

AJSully421 wrote:

Roger Howard wrote:

casp625 wrote:So when the new 30.06 & 30.07 laws take effect, will all the old signs be invalid? What if businesses don't post new signs?

30.06 will not change. 30.07 will cover open carry. If the law passes as written at this point, it would become effective January 1, 2016

You are right, the "rules" of 30.06 will not change, but if you read the current language of SB17, the required wording on the sign / document does change. This makes every single current 30.06 sign non-compliant and unenforceable on 1/1/16. The property owner who wishes to exclude the most law abiding adult group in Texas will have to rub two brain cells together, and get a compliant sign installed for both CC and OC. This will take up lots of space. Most will only pick one sign. My bet is that it will be 30.07. Or, I am wrong and they will post 30.06 and will verbally notify OCers.

By the way, I have run in to a few of the old signs that reference the old section before it was 30.06... maybe section 29ee? I love seeing those old, unenforceable, signs as I walk right past them.

I would not want to try and convince a jury that 3 or 4 word changes on a sign meant that I had not received notice.

You won't have to. The State has to prove that you did receive proper notice... and the law itself states that you did not due to the wording. Any competent defense attorney would get it tossed long before any trial. Besides... what were you doing to get made while carrying?

treadlightly wrote:I favor the right to open carry. I'm not likely to practice it.