Mojo, I don't think he's talking about us.mojo84 wrote:Embalmo wrote:This is proof of the companies lack of knowledge of both alcohol and gun laws; and the invalidity of the clerks statement. No one is ever going to likely notice a concealed carry unless it's drawn. At that point, verbal notification is the least of my worries.TVGuy wrote:This.Embalmo wrote:So many customers and employees come an go in these chain stores that it would be next to impossible to prove that some employee gave notice. Especially when the notice was given vaguely in the course of a conversation.mojo84 wrote:Tvguy, it's my understanding verbal notice is valid until otherwise notified.
What concerns me most is the ignorance of the laws from shopkeepers, LE, and the public at large that can erode our rights.
Can you cite the law of which you are insinuating we are ignorant?
Before jumping to insinuating we are ignorant, you may want to double check your position with someone that is more knowledgableb such as Charles, Keith, Carlson, Steve Rothstein or others.
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- Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:22 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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- Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:57 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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This.Embalmo wrote:So many customers and employees come an go in these chain stores that it would be next to impossible to prove that some employee gave notice. Especially when the notice was given vaguely in the course of a conversation.mojo84 wrote:Tvguy, it's my understanding verbal notice is valid until otherwise notified.
- Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:54 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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It's after refusing to leave. If I went back in two months and they say the same thing again, I'd leave again.mojo84 wrote:Is it just a class C after receiving verbal notice and disregarding it?
- Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:48 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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You're not going to be going to court for a class c misdemeanor either way it goes.mgood wrote:mojo84 wrote:You said she said " no guns allowed here". That's all she needs to say to give you notice.![]()
The rest of the conversation is irrelevant. IMO, you have received verbal notice.
If you're ever caught carrying there and for whatever reason the cops are called, and it goes to court, that woman gets on the stand and says "I told him we don't allow guns here." The other clerk is a witness to that and agrees. You're toast.
- Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:23 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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You bring up a good point. How long does that notice last?mojo84 wrote:Embalmo wrote:183 close to Cameron in the Wendy's parking lot.TVGuy wrote:Where?Embalmo wrote:I just asked a convenience store clerk while checking out with a Snickers Bar on my lunch break if she'd seen any open carryers yet. I'm at work and concealing. Anyway, a burly woman came out of the back telling us that no guns were allowed here and there was a big sign outside. I insisted she show me the sign and she proudly pointed my nose and o their blue TABC sign.![]()
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Hope you don't plan to carry there in the future. Even if her reasoning is fallacious, you've been provided notice. Sad part is, you prompted it.
Sometimes it's better to just go about one's business without bringing things like guns up. There are plenty of other things to smalltalk about.
Scenario- a store posts 30.06/07 and you've received notice. They take their signs down in the future because they change their mind. No notice at that point.
How do you know the same doesn't happen with verbal?
- Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:05 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: First encounter. I hope there aren't more.
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Where?Embalmo wrote:I just asked a convenience store clerk while checking out with a Snickers Bar on my lunch break if she'd seen any open carryers yet. I'm at work and concealing. Anyway, a burly woman came out of the back telling us that no guns were allowed here and there was a big sign outside. I insisted she show me the sign and she proudly pointed my nose and o their blue TABC sign.![]()
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