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- Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:21 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Declare or not declare that is the question.
- Replies: 56
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Re: Declare or not declare that is the question.
I always declare and show my chl. I simply stand by that it is an empty gesture. You still havent explained why a CHL must declare and it is "safer" when an MPA carrier doesn't. MPA is even advised not to as it might be construed as a threat. I have never been LEO but I live in a small town and have closely associated with LEO here since I was 6 years old. Family has worked in the dept here for 25 years. I know how they think and have actually attended a lot of their training sessions (I get to be a BG sometimes). I will defer to active officers such as yourself and Rothstein but will never see the purpose of declaring. Officers should assume everyone is armed and stay alert.
- Sat May 29, 2010 10:14 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Declare or not declare that is the question.
- Replies: 56
- Views: 7266
Re: Declare or not declare that is the question.
No because concealed is just that, concealed. A law abiding carrier is not a danger to him so his knowledge may make him "feel at ease" but in reality does nothing to further his safety. What I meant by "ones he doesnt know about" are the ones criminals are hiding which they will not declare and use on him, not my bug inthe console. Me telling him that my .45 is on my right hip does nothing but make him jumpy (possibly) and could get me shot for inadvertantly setting my hand down or something. I just dont see the point in chl declaring to an officer in a routine traffic stop. If he asks, if you have to get out, if you need to search your car for insurance, anything out of the ordinary then tell him as it may become unconcealed at that point. The MPA makes no requirement to declare so why are we different? If it is so valued safetywise then they should have to declare as well. My worst case story is a Pearland cop who stopped me and his partner felt the need to disarm me (the only one ever) and had his finger on the trigger while trying to unload a 1911. I was just waiting for the shot because he was obviously a revolver guy. There was no need to disarm me, no need to unload. Just for the record I do hand over my CHL, I do let him know where it is if asked. I am arguing the principle of the matter.
- Sat May 29, 2010 12:02 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Declare or not declare that is the question.
- Replies: 56
- Views: 7266
Re: Declare or not declare that is the question.
This statement sounds dumber every time i hear and officer say it. How the heck can him knowing make him safer? The ones he doesnt know about are the ones gonna get him! If you tell him then you likely had no intentions of harm in the first place therefore his danger level is unchanged.Big Ben wrote:
2. He would like to know just for his personal safety if there are ever any firearms in any vehicle he stops.
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