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by txinvestigator
Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:04 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: cocked and locked?
Replies: 76
Views: 12649

ru934 wrote:do me a favor an go ahead an delete my account
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by txinvestigator
Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:36 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: cocked and locked?
Replies: 76
Views: 12649

ru934 wrote:startin to sound to like me some of yall have been takein to many gun classes, an need to start takein self defense classes. im a big guy an i hardly think im just gonna stand there an LET someone stab me, or knock me in the head. 80% sure i can end the sittuation, without useing deadly force! NEXT!

Lots of dead people thought that. ;-) Seriously, I don't care who you are or how "tough" you think you are, you go one-on-one with a knife armed dude and your gonna get cut, badly. I have training in 3 martial arts, and hold a blackbelt in TKD and I won't go hand to knife unless I am otherwise unarmed and cannot run away.
by txinvestigator
Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:41 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: cocked and locked?
Replies: 76
Views: 12649

fm2 wrote:ru934, The reason it doesn't feel right is lack of training, IMHO. You should carry what you are comfortable with. If you are not "sold" on cocked and locked, that's okay, choose accordingly. The training environment allows you to try different things, ie...Single action, DA/SA, DAO, modes of carry etc... in the propper environment. You should avoid often changes in your mode of carry, ie Single action Saturday, DAO Sunday, etc....

Skiprr wrote:I'll go one better as a supporting reason for C&L....I'd posit that, for a citizen carrying concealed, the distance is liable to be closer than for LEO engagements. Why? Two reasons: we're carrying concealed and it takes longer to present from concealment (generally speaking) than from open carry; and because we know that at least a couple of lawyers are going to be riding on each bullet, we're going to be as sure as humanly possible of our decision to present and fire, shaving more microseconds off the time from threat to fire....
I'll add that a LEO can point his pistol at the BG, while CHL folks cannot brandish a firearm. This can allow the BG to get closer. Also some people look like food to BG's, while LEOs generally do not.

Skiprr wrote: So I've always felt that my offhand had better be prepared to do more work than just grabbing the other side of my pistol and supporting the shooting hand. More work as in blocking an attack, pulling some object out of the way (or into the way, as the case may be), or even simply giving a visible gesture as I shout, "Stop!" So I approach it with the thought that the most likely scenario, should I ever actually have to draw, would be a one-handed point-and-shoot for at least the first shot. Can't do that without something in the chamber on an autoloader...
Correct! The off hand, and maybe both hands, must be available for fending off the attacker or more likely attackers.
agree with one exception;
I'll add that a LEO can point his pistol at the BG, while CHL folks cannot brandish a firearm.
police officers work under chapter 9 just as non-LEOs. texas has a law against intentionally failing to conceal (which applies to CHLholders), and against pointing a firearm at a person (applies to everyone, even LEO's)

Your defense to doing so is in chapter 9. If a guy presents a knife and approaches you from say...30 feet, and demands your money, you are certainly justified in drawing your weapon and pointing it at the person.
by txinvestigator
Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:38 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: cocked and locked?
Replies: 76
Views: 12649

Re: cocked and locked?

ru934 wrote:hey hows it goin? i just wanted to mention something real quick, an see if im the only one that feels this way.....i am terrified of haveing whatever handgun i chose to carry on me, ''cocked an locked''. tried carrying this way with everything from a beetta m9 to a 1911, and it just doesnt feel right. brings a wierd feelin to me or somethin....not real sure why, becouse i know how safe ''most'' of these guns are, and i know how safe an cautious i am. just lookin to see what peoples point of views are on this. nothin anyone says can change my mind. way i look at it is i still have a whole lot better chance takein an extra second to rack tha slide then be without at all. again, not tryin to start any arguments! take it easy, rusty


PS: i feel 100% safe with a fully loaded revolver(an yes, ive allways been taught to leave it on an empty chanmber but....) . go figure.... all you have to do on it is simply pull the trigger an it goes bang! no safetys....hmmmm haha
You cannot carry a Beretta M9 cocked and locked. You can carry it cocked, but there is no way of putting it on safe with the hammer back. It is not safe to carry cocked, as there is no safety engaged and a short trigger pull.

A 1911 is perfectly safe to carry C&L. In addition to the thumb safety, there is a grip safety. Even with the safety off the gun will not fire unless the grip safety is depressed. a 1911 with nothing in the chamber is a club.

Mike was right on about revolvers. Modern revolvers are prefectly safe to carry fully loaded.

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