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by Nuts
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:57 am
Forum: General Legislative Discussions
Topic: Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick attacks NRA and Supports expanded background checks
Replies: 107
Views: 67920

Re: Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick attacks NRA and Supports expanded background checks

RoyGBiv wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:52 am
mrvmax wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:42 am
RoyGBiv wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:43 pm
Nuts wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:34 pm
RoyGBiv wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:10 pm
jason812 wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:06 pm
RoyGBiv wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:04 pm Let's help draft a law we can live with....


-- Printed receipt for each party
-- Transaction records immediately deleted
How can you have a printed receipt and delete the transaction records?
The buyer gets a receipt, the seller gets a receipt, the government gets to delete the record after printing the receipt. Undifficult.
And you trust the government to delete them?
When I buy a gun through an FFL today, what record does the government maintain?
Would I be any worse off with my (admittedly pie in the sky) proposal?
The 4473 is kept for 20 years but the FFL can destroy them after that. The ATF encourages the FFL to turn them in instead of destroying them. Some FFLs will shut down their license and get a new one just to avoid having to store 4473’s (in which case the forms are sent to the ATF). During yearly inspections the ATF IOI can gather any info they want off the 4473’s, I’ve had them take someone’s info before during audits (even though there was nothing questionable and after I told him the buyer was legit and had a CHL).

Multiple handgun sales (and multiple long gun sales in border states) forms are sent to the ATF and chief law enforcement officer. Those forms have all the buyers info plus all the firearm info.

Your proposal does nothing to solve the problem and only opens the door to other infringing legislation. As Reagan stated, government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem. I have not seen anything proposed that will stop people from being killed. There has been nothing implemented worldwide that I know of that has stopped killing.
I wasn't trying to solve the violence problem, just trying to satiate the calls for UBC's in a way that is no worse than what exists today. When an FFL runs a NICS check, is a record kept by the FBI? If we pass a law declaring that record must be deleted, I'd say we gained something. 4473 remains unchanged.

Appeasement never is a good idea in anyway.
by Nuts
Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:34 pm
Forum: General Legislative Discussions
Topic: Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick attacks NRA and Supports expanded background checks
Replies: 107
Views: 67920

Re: Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick attacks NRA and Supports expanded background checks

RoyGBiv wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:10 pm
jason812 wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:06 pm
RoyGBiv wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:04 pm Let's help draft a law we can live with....


-- Printed receipt for each party
-- Transaction records immediately deleted
How can you have a printed receipt and delete the transaction records?
The buyer gets a receipt, the seller gets a receipt, the government gets to delete the record after printing the receipt. Undifficult.
And you trust the government to delete them?

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