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by CHLSteve
Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:19 pm
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Topic: Legal use of pepper spray
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Re: Legal use of pepper spray

flb_78 wrote:
CHLSteve wrote: (don't carry out on the course anyway)
Why? :headscratch
Well, there's no good place for a gun while swinging a golf club. I suppose I could stash something in my bag if I wanted to.
I personally don't think it's use was warranted the way it was originally described (taken literally). IMHO, I would have either just let them play through or left the course. Knowing me, I would have been pretty mad and I know that would effect my game which would have made things worse so I would have probably just left. But that's just me. FWIW, I have been hit into a few times while playing golf as well and I must say I don't like it at all.
I agree, and I would not have used it then, but my question is at what point does it become warranted? I was expecting him to start shoving or pushing at which point I think I would have doused him rather than get into the a knock down drag out fist fight on the tee box.

I was very angry after it happened, and it did ruin a few holes. Off topic, I don't know why people cannot wait an additional 20-30 seconds for the group in front of them to clear before hitting. A well-struck golf ball travels at over 150 MPH, and those hard little white balls can really hurt someone.
by CHLSteve
Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:14 am
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Topic: Legal use of pepper spray
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Views: 1824

Re: Legal use of pepper spray

seamusTX wrote:I should have said this earlier, though the OP didn't ask: Pepper spray disables an assailant for a minute at most, and possibly not at all. If the guy was angry before, he's going to be really angry afterward, and he knows what you've got now.

So where are you going to be when he recovers?
In this example, I would have taken my father and driven off. I figure the use would be a distraction enough for me to get out of the area, and call the clubhouse/police if necessary. I would then prepare for further action depending on how aggressive the guy was.

A minute at most huh? I always thought a blast to the eyes would get you 5-10.
by CHLSteve
Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:10 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Legal use of pepper spray
Replies: 16
Views: 1824

Legal use of pepper spray

I apologize if this has been covered, but I did not find anything with the search.

I would like to know when it's "OK" to use pepper spray--legally speaking. In other words, in what circumstances could you use the product without fear of legal consequence?

I'm thinking about cases where use of a gun would be too extreme, and unjustified, but I'm not looking forward to getting into a fist fight with some jerk either.

I'll give a specific example of what I mean. I was golfing with my father a few months ago. The group behind us kept hitting balls into our group (very dangerous BTW) so my father said something to them to cut it out. There was a young guy with them, and he was very aggressive and loud mouthed (swearing and such). He approached us and was yelling about us playing too slow, etc.. I stood in between he and my father. For a second, I thought we were about to throw down. Fortunately, he thought better of it, and turned and left us alone. Fight-wise we probably would have been about equally matched, but I really didn't feel like going to blows with this punk in the middle of my round. My thought was that I would never have drawn on him (don't carry out on the course anyway), but if I had some pepper spray he was moments from getting a face full of it. However, it would not be worth any legal trouble that might follow.

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