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marksiwel wrote:

The Habernatho wrote:I'm interested to see how much money he ends up getting out of all this.

I could careless about the money, I want to know if there is a pattern of behavior like this in the CPD?

Yup.

nitrogen wrote:This is precicely why you NEVER say "I have a weapon" or "I have a CHL" to the officer, you just give him/her your ID and keep shut.

Still... Out of line, 100%

I'm going to go with Nitrogen here. I do believe there are two issues to discuss here.

To me the first is how to prevent these kind of interactions. He may or may not have been told to stay in the car, he may or may not have been told to get back in. But your first duty, whether it is an encounter with a BG or an LEO is to go home afterwards. I think there is enough anecdotal evidence to suggest that remaining where you're at unless you are told otherwise is the most prudent course of action. From the time I was little my dad (a former highway patrolman) drilled into me the manners, attitude and posture to adopt when encountering a LEO.

You can take actions and speak in such a manner as to ease the tensions (not accounting for complete jerks) and if it is a matter of consent and such, you can still refuse while maintaining absolute courtesy. Did the driver do anything wrong? Yes, no, maybe...I dunno, was there things he could have done to possibly avert this confrontation? Yepper.

The second issue I see is, is what do you do when these guys run off the tracks? I would sign a formal complaint and let the IA and DA's offices investigate and prosecute. My decision to file a lawsuit would depend on how swiftly and how cooperatively they responded to my complaint. IF found guilty, these guys should be stripped of their creds and fired.

My opinion, worth every penny you paid for it.

I know the chief and that seems totally out of line with his outlook. I wonder what's up in his office?