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yakadoo wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:54 pm

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:24 pm That is current law, not what will be in effect on September 1 when HB 1927 takes effect.

It is both current law and what will be in effect in September; HB 1927 makes no changes to the definition of "notice" contained in 30.05(b), but merely adds in 30.05(c) another way of providing "notice".

That is, the new kind of "notice" by signage is in addition to, not a replacement for, the original definition in the case of firearm carry.

And it was never established that 30.05(b) was a way to preclude a person entering under some particular conditions (like if carrying or wearing MAGA hat, or whatever).

Regardless, the Defense to 30.05 for LTC still exists in the law whether they post a newly defined 30.05 sign, a frowny face next to a Beretta silhouette, or a list of rules in 4pt font in their guestbook. If you have a LTC, they have to post 30.06/7 AND give you 30.05 notice (likely through the defined sign or verbally).

Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 12:22 pm There are other defenses to prosecution for VESP's and LEO's (and possibly others). I know the VESP defense would apply for 30.06 / 30.07, not sure if it applies to 30.05.

Also another reason to keep your LTC. I suspect a lot of places will think they are covered by posting only a 30.05 sign, even for LTC's. I doubt many places will feel like posting 3 signs.

Also some who now have 30.06/7 signs will not figure out the new 30.05 signs are needed too, and as I pointed out before, a LTC can now (after 9/1) carry where no 30.05 is posted because he wouldn't be carrying "under the authority of LTC".