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by TDDude
Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:51 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: An embarrassingly basic question
Replies: 35
Views: 4672

Re: An embarrassingly basic question

DParker wrote:That's all well and good, but none of that is going to leave the newly-arrived LEO(s) certain as to who's who. So I'm still under the assumption that they're going to want neither of us to be holding a gun as they take control of the situation.
You are probably right. Of course, doing what an LE tells you is a given. Keeping your finger off the trigger, complying with any commands but I disagree in not telling them that you are on your own property or that you belonged there or you, or your friend are the one who called. If you keep your finger off the trigger and then point it away when they arrive it would probably go a long way to showing who is the good guy and who isn't. So what if you both get cuffed. It will eventually work out and chances are the guy you are holding has a sheet.
The scenario I propose did not assume that the BG was IN your home. Merely either on your property or in some other situation that makes your possession and use of the firearm legal. It *did* assume, however, that things have played out in such a way that the BG did not challenge you once your weapon was brought to bear (leaving you with no reason to shoot), nor did he try to flee the scene.
I don't see this happening in this day and age. Even if the guy is not armed, I don't see them giving up and just waiting around for the police to haul them off. Plus, I'm not all that interested in holding him until the police get there (15 minutes or so??) and I am sure not interested in cornering him so he feels he has to do something desperate that causes things to escalate (using your scenario of the confrontation being over). I really don't think a BG is gonna stick around if they can run off. If the threat is gone, so is your protection against using deadly force.

I guess I missed that point in your post. I assumed you meant that they were in your house and things were still hinky.

There really is no easy answer. In my case I simply include a prayer to God for wisdom in all the challenges that I am faced with.

This is just what I would hope I could do. In reality, I'll probably just pee down my leg and roll up into a small ball until they take all my stuff and leave. NOT

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by TDDude
Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:59 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: An embarrassingly basic question
Replies: 35
Views: 4672

Re: An embarrassingly basic question

Make sure the police know you are the home owner. I would simply shout it out. "I LIVE HERE, I LIVE HERE" should probably do it. Body language of the both of you should also tell the officer who is who. Have whoever calls the police tell them that an armed CHL holder is on the premises and have them describe what you are wearing, what you look like etc.

Other than that, I'm not sure I would be in the "Holding Them At Bay" business if someone is in my home; especially since the Castle doctrine was passed. If I pull a gun and they challenge me, it's over. If they freeze, then I'm looking for his buddy and if I see one and he's moving, it's over. If they were scrambling to get out, I'm fairly certain I would let them go and make sure I get a good look at the car or which way they headed out. I'm not going to shoot someone in the back as they are running away.

But then again, I pray I never have to take another life or ever have to be in that situation.

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