>Case in point, my son won't join the NRA because he does want to be 'identified" or "listed" as a gun nut
With the problems of protecting privacy in this country and the technology available to allow one to be 'tracked, itemized, categorized, and targeted' I think we're already on a 'list' somewhere.
I'm trying to find a real reference, but I saw a posting on another forum referencing an alleged bill that allegedly required credit card companies to supply the federal gov't with our purchase history. The data is already available, the technology is already available, its only a question of whether such an abuse,.err..bill really exists. We already have the technology (OnStar, GPS) to track where you're driving and how fast (on-board automotive 'black boxes'), so in theory we could track a person driving from their home, to the gun show, to McDonalds (to raise your health insurance because you're eating fast food) to the gun range, where some Big Brother version of OnStar could lock you in your vehicle, disable it and send someone to relieve you of that new AR-15 you just bought. Far fetched, probably. Possible, yes. Probable? Well in England they're already using GPS to track how much people drive in order to 'adjust' their gasoline tax appropriately.
If you've ever bought a gun at a dealer, there's a 4473 form record, if you've ever used a credit card at "Big Bob's Gun emporium", there's a record, etc. Talk on your cell phone about guns? someone could be picking that up. Got a CHL? you're on a list (aren't they still public in some states?). Post to an internet forum? you're on a list.
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The real problem is that these sorts of things will happen quietly and will be in place before anyone knows or they'll be sold on whatever the popular rallying call of the day is. ("think of the children", "if it saves just one life....", "public safety", "..aid the war on terrorism").
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- Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:53 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: The NRA.....lets talk!
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Re: The NRA.....lets talk!
>The ONLY way to fight this plan is with an NRA 20,000,000 members strong with one mindset,
>one goal, one cause. The absolute protection of the 2nd Amendment.
One only has to look at places like Canada, England, Australia, etc. There are 2 major factors in why other countries are able to reduce or remove legal gun ownership:
# 1. no constitutional protection
# 2. no equivalent of the NRA
The NRA isn't perfect, and we probably won't agree with everything they do, but supporting the NRA is a critical factor in protecting our rights.
As for the junk mail, I get more junk mail from my mortgage company - and I know they're just looking for money.
>one goal, one cause. The absolute protection of the 2nd Amendment.
One only has to look at places like Canada, England, Australia, etc. There are 2 major factors in why other countries are able to reduce or remove legal gun ownership:
# 1. no constitutional protection
# 2. no equivalent of the NRA
The NRA isn't perfect, and we probably won't agree with everything they do, but supporting the NRA is a critical factor in protecting our rights.
As for the junk mail, I get more junk mail from my mortgage company - and I know they're just looking for money.