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Charles L. Cotton wrote: Your complaint is utterly without merit.

Chas.

Well, Charles, I can see I have somehow offended you. Anyway, thanks for clarifying. Are you suggesting that if I carry past a 30.06 sign and for whatever reason it is discovered, then I will have the opportunity to leave without prosecution if the owner of the property calls the police and they then ask me to leave with the police present? Much like if I bring outside food or drink into a movie theater, for example?

If so, then I stand corrected. I think many of us are under the impression that if we carry past a 30.06 sign then we are certain to face more serious consequences than simply being asked to leave if the police are called.

Thanks for so quickly reminding me why I abandoned this forum for so long. In short order I have been reminded just how naturally gun advocates alienate people, even those who strenuously claim that they are truly interested in not doing so. You need not reply to my post because I won't be back to read it.

Charles, et al, I think the point that is not being made clearly or concisely enough to prevent misinterpretation is this:

There is only one piece of legal, personal property which can be possessed by an individual, which has its own special trespassing law in Texas that specifies that you are criminally trespassing if you enter a property posted with a particular sign. That one piece of property is a concealed handgun.

All of these other arguments about property owners being able to restrict this and that are completely irrelevant and moot in this discussion because there is not one single other object that is subject to this type of criminalizing based on carrying it past a no-trespassing sign. Other things, all of them, are subject to the general ruling on trespassing, which is the owner of the property must take an affirmative action to remove you from the property, and you must refuse to do so in the presence of a police officer in order to become a criminal.

Truly, the 30.06 is absolutely a special, unique case.

So the OP's point is completely valid and totally reasonable. There is absolutely no logical justification that can be made in support of 30.06 as distinct from 30.05. Period, and end of story.

The whole purpose of 30.06 is political.

As soon as we begin to have 30.0X sub-sections to cover every other piece of personal property whose possession on posted property becomes banned by force of Texas Law simply because of the nature of that property, then we can begin to compare 30.06 to other property rights laws. But at the present time, it is a law in a class by itself.