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Sounds like a bunch of 'hawg-wash' to me.

I have always thought the Para line was really good stuff, but for some reason never felt right in my hand. The Slim Hawg was a little better, but still felt odd. I have fairly small hands, so that may be the issue.

Or maybe... "Living high on the Hawg"?

well the only difference if i remember correctly was the finish and rail(for the nite hawg) i thought that all the hawg's were double stack.

No, the specifications are in the link I provided in my first post:

http://www.paraord.com/product/category.html?cat=20

The "Slim Hawg" is a single stack 6+1.

Not that it matters. I was just curious which one you were considering.

02transam wrote:

frreed wrote:Add to that list Sig and H&K. If you are priced in the market for a Para, but like the XD you can get a top notch hi-cap semi. Nothing wrong with the others, but you have many choices.

i like sigs dont get me wrong but i want a .45 and last i checked they were just starting to come out with them. as a rule of thumb i never buy first gen guns from anyone for several reasons. as for h&k i would love to own a usp compact 45 but they are more expensive than the para. btw the specific model i was looking at was the hawg 45

I only ask because it could be any of these in .45 acp.

Nite Hawg
Warthog
Slim Hawg
Lite Hawg .45
Stainless Warthog
Covert Black Slim Hawg

Keith B wrote:

flintknapper wrote:Here is a target I shot with my Daughter’s Para Carry 9. That is 10 (not five) shots in 1� at 10 yds. (30 feet) from a 3� barrel. I am sure the Springfield would do very well also.

Dad-gum kids and their fresh eyes!!

Thuts sum purdy gud shootin' thur Flint. You dun gud wit yur girl!!

Actually, I shot that group with her pistol, in case I was unclear about that.

Had she shot it, it would have been in the bullseye and probably a bit smaller group. I hate that!

that being said i have been on the fence for sometime now about which new carry to get. the two ive been juggling are the para hawg hawg 45 and the xd 45acp compact. i like the mag extension on the xd but im think it would fairly easier to carry the 3 in hawg. the downside to the hawg is there is no mag extension although it does have a 10+1 capacity.

You don’t say which Para “Hawg� model you have in mind. There are quite a number of Para models and configurations designated “Hawg�, some single stack others Hi-Cap.

http://www.paraord.com/product/category.html?cat=20

The single stacks currently enjoy a better reputation for reliability than do the Hi-Caps (just being honest).

other than that im concerned about accuracy(sp) given the 3"in barrel. i do remember from the chl class they say most encounters are usually between 3 and 12ft but id like to know that if i have to engage a target past that i can hit it.

Either pistol will be sufficiently accurate at distances exceeding 25 yards (well beyond normal self defense range). Short barrels do not = “inaccurate�.

Here is a target I shot with my Daughter’s Para Carry 9. That is 10 (not five) shots in 1� at 10 yds. (30 feet) from a 3� barrel. I am sure the Springfield would do very well also.



Most “Shooter’s� tend to be less accurate with a short barreled weapon because of the shorter sight radius, less weight forward of the grip centerline, etc….but the gun itself should be capable of very good accuracy. Both Springfield and Para are known for good accuracy if nothing else. Both companies offer lifetime warranties and both companies have excellent customer service.

the other thing i like about the hawg is its a full steel construction where as the xd is polymer grip and steel slide.

This amounts to personal preference. Both weapons will outlast you if properly cared for, and the weight of either can be closely matched. Para offers frames made of steel or Aluminum alloy… so weights run between 24 and 32 ozs.

the other factor is the xd is about 500 bucks and the hawg is closer to 900. so does anyone have any recommendations for me? im not sure how much support there is for the hawg ie holster selection. i know the xd has alot. so any help would greatly appreciated. Thanks

Cost is something you will have to decide on for yourself. Even though I am a Para owner and generally like them, I will tell you that “resale� value on Para’s is not in line with some other major brands… when you consider their high initial cost. Again, just being honest.

Holsters are not a concern. There is a plethora of holsters for either the Springfield or the Para.

If you want the most bang for the buck, I would go for the Springfield. If you have $900.00 burning a hole in your pocket and want something unusual, buy the Para.

Consider also…that if your budget allows $800-$900 you can look at a great variety of firearms. Springfield, Para, Kimber, Kahr, Smith & Wesson, Gl…Glllooo….Gloooc…Glock.

Good luck, let us know what worked for you.

Flint.