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by PatrickS
Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:19 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Checking a firearm while flying
Replies: 18
Views: 3792

austin wrote:I fly into and out of Ohare and Midway regularly.

I travel with my carry pistol with the intent of rearming myself in the airport bathroom or parking lot ( depending on local law ) when I reach either Texas or a state that has reciprocity.

You can travel into Chicago and transit to your destination legally as long as you follow the local laws. For me this means pistol with a lock on it as well as the case and the ammunition in another bag.

There are a few towns in IL which ban all handguns so you do not want to stay there. I dont stay in these towns. I leave my pistol in my hotel room locked in my luggage or in my car trunk locked away.

Coming back through either Airport, its the same procedure as at any airport. I've never had any issues in IL.

I have never travelled to NYC and likely would leave my pistol in my car in TX if I knew I would be staying in NYC.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I won't worry then about
transit via Ohare, and will just be sure to have copies of the
relevant Illinois laws on hand, etc.
by PatrickS
Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:36 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Checking a firearm while flying
Replies: 18
Views: 3792

anygunanywhere wrote:Illinois in general and Chicago in particular have some arcane and annoying firearms laws. I would highly recommend you do your homework prior to flying to Chicago with firearms, especially pistols. The same for New York City.

If you are in possession of your luggage then you are in possession of your firearms. Although the Firearms Owner Protection Act protects you, there have been instances of travellers in compliance with the act being arrested in NYC. I do not know about Chicago.

I visit Chicago area regularly. There is no way I can bring my handguns through Chicago. Illinois has an FOID (Firearms Owner ID) card system. You can not possess firearms nor purchase ammo unless you have the card. Handguns are banned in Chicago period.

We all know Illinois and Chicago are much safer because of the restrictions!

Daleystan.

Anygun
OK. This motivated a quick look on packing.org (which is
not necessarily guarunteed to be correct, so I'll be following
this up with some verifications). But I found the following:

http://www.packing.org/state/illinois/# ... _journ_law
(a) (1) No person may acquire or possess any firearm within this State without having in his or her possession a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued in his or her name by the Department of State Police under the provisions of this Act.
(2) No person may acquire or possess firearm ammunition within this State without having in his or her possession a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued in his or her name by the Department of State Police under the provisions of this Act.
(b) The provisions of this Section regarding the possession of firearms and firearm ammunition do not apply to:
...
(9) Nonresidents whose firearms are unloaded and enclosed in a case;
...
Which seems to say that I shouldn't have any problems.

Of course, that's not to say that I couldn't be arrested, as a matter
of policy, and have to clear myself in court.

Anyone have any experience, or input otherwise, on this?
by PatrickS
Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:17 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Checking a firearm while flying
Replies: 18
Views: 3792

Re: Checking a firearm while flying

frankie_the_yankee wrote:
troglodyte wrote: If you are flying out-of-state, make sure you know the firearms laws where you are going.

M
You bet. You won't have any problems on the way out, but you can easily get busted on the way back when you declare the gun(s) in some repressive jurisdiction where, for the time being, (meaning until SCOTUS rules on Parker) you are not allowed to possess them. Chicago and NYC are prime examples of this. MA is another, with NJ not far behind.
I presume this wouldn't be a problem if one were simply in transit
through e.g. Chicago OHare, right.

E.g. If I'm returning from a trip to Europe with checked firearms, and
am transferring in Chicago for my flight to Dallas -- in which case, I have
to collect my luggage and go through customs, etc. -- I presume I'm not
going to be arrested for posession, right?

I also wonder if I have to then make a new declaration when dropping
the bags off at the transfer belt, even if they are tagged all the way
through to Dallas.

(might need to give the airline/TSA a call about the above -- glad this
thread made me think about it... as I'll be doing exactly the above
at the end of the summer)

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