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by ewhite
Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:03 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Illegal 30.06 signs
Replies: 37
Views: 5366

Re: Illegal 30.06 signs

kitty wrote:We're not talking about walking past non-compliant signs. The OP is about a guy he knows who intentionally makes non-compliant 30.06 signs for people who come in asking for them. He knows how they are supposed to be done, but because he knows how they're supposed to be but the client doesn't he just does them wrong because they won't know the difference. If I went to a restaurant and ordered something but didn't know how it was supposed to be prepared, but the chef knew exactly how it was to be done, but decided to short me on the preparation to save money or just because he's lazy, because I wouldn't know the difference, then he's stealing from me. I mean I don't know what my doctor is supposed to do regarding medical procedures, but he does; should he give me less quality care since I don't know if what he's doing is really correct or not. I would hope not. It's interesting to me what is condoned here.

Correction: He did ask if we, as CHLs, walk past non-compliant signs, then he mentioned his friend who prints them for people, but makes them non-compliant on purpose so he doesn't get busted. To answer the question, yes I do walk past non-compliant signs. I have only seen two compliant signs, the others I've seen are not.
I think a better way to coorelate it would be for you to order an Denver omlette and tell the chef you only want ham and cheese. Well the chef knows it has green peppers and mushrooms and it tastes much better with them, but if you want it with only ham and cheese, then that is the way you get it.

I just talked to him and he said he is not changing the wording, he is not giving them anything they do not ask for. If they ask for 30.06 sign he says how big do you wnat it? they say 8X10 then he makes it. They got exactly what they asked for.

Oh, if you walk past non comliant signs, then you are doing the same thing...you know that that establishment does not want you in there with your gun. Now do not get me wrong, when I get mine, I will dismiss them also, I will also be thanking my friend for not making it harder to go places than it should be. They call them idiot signs, because only an idiot would want one.

People want the police around anytime they can, but you mention people that are trained and have to follow the same rules, that can potentially stop your store from being robbed and they do not want that because your not police???...Idiots
by ewhite
Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:01 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Illegal 30.06 signs
Replies: 37
Views: 5366

Re: Illegal 30.06 signs

kitty wrote:You have a point, but in this case, the printer knows exactly how the signs are to be done to be compliant, and he intentionally does them wrong to skirt the law at his client's expense. It's not like he's ignorant about how it's supposed to be done. I find this man to be untrustworthy.
Wow this turned the totally wrong direction....So Kitty if you see a non-compiant sign, do you obey it? If you do then great, but if you do not then you are doing exactly what he is. You know in your heart what is supposed to be on the sign...

Like I said, the customer is getting what they are ordering. If they order the proper sign, then that is what they get. If they do not state what size they want or say they want an illegal size he does not change their mind for them. Being in the business that also deals with machine shops, you literally get what you ask for, he is no different, he gives them what they ask for...FYI he is not changing the verbage of the sign. FYI if the cutomer only asks for the sign in english then that is what they get...I find it amuzing.
by ewhite
Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:52 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Illegal 30.06 signs
Replies: 37
Views: 5366

Re: Illegal 30.06 signs

AggieC05 wrote:while i understand what he is doing.. something in me says this is morally wrong.....
not ignoring the illegal 30.06 signs but a guy knowingly selling them non compliant signs....

I know when I order things I expect them to be complaint with specs.. take any of the guns you own. When you order a gun do you go and research ever spec of the gun and send them a list of each exact spec of barrel spacing, which trigger, wait make sure you use that the right magazine...

Just seems like bad business and morally wrong to me. I hate 30.06 signs as much as you guys, but this is not the right way to go about not following them.....
I feel that if the places orderiung the signs actually cared they would know exactly what the size of the sign would be and what exactly it would say. I beleive the sign size would have to be 3'X2' to be totally legal, and most business' who have them are larger and the managers are just told from corporate that they need a sign. OK here you go. He says that if they ask for it in the way the law prescribes he gives it to them, but he has only had a couple that knew anything about what it should say or even what size it should be. I say if you are going to order something that is a law, that is going to be posted on your business, then you better know what you are putting out there.
by ewhite
Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:08 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Illegal 30.06 signs
Replies: 37
Views: 5366

Re: Illegal 30.06 signs

That is what I thought, I was just curious. At least according to him, if places order signs from him, unless they specify the exact deminsions, text size, wording, and all according to what the law states, they will always be non compliant...
by ewhite
Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:21 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Illegal 30.06 signs
Replies: 37
Views: 5366

Illegal 30.06 signs

OK I have searched but can not find what I am wanting to know.

How many of you ignore illegal 30.06 signs?

I talked to a guy who prints these signs for people and he intentionally makes the signs the wrong size. He is also a CHL holder and says this way he does not have to worry about getting busted. He says the law is very strict to the exact size and dimensions of the letters. I can see how if the sign is not legal... I do not have my CHL yet but was wondering how you guys handle it.

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