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dale blanker wrote:
Well, the pastor was effectively accused of neglect and therefore partially responsible for avoidable deaths. I suspect the families did not need to hear that from Charles so quickly. It could have waited, don't you think?

I won't try to justify the timing of Obama's gun control comments but I suspect the family was not has bothered by that nearly as much as hearing their pastor's neglect was a major factor in the disaster.

Charles stated the obvious & the families werent aware of his comments for the simple reason, he didnt communicate them to the family.They heard them from mad mother shannon watson & the rabid gotcha media pushing an agenda. shannon watson cared more about scoring points then she did the suffering of the families.

Human nature being what it is you can bet money that everyone impacted by this has played the "what if" game, and considering the overwhelming blow to the families, Charles comments amounted to a gnat in a hurricane.

Now, you be honest, do you think Charles' comment was valid?

Honestly they probably still aren't aware of the statement. Mom's Demand are still trying to dig up all support and outcry they can to try and hurt NRA, Mr. Cotton as they can.

dale blanker wrote: Well, the pastor was effectively accused of neglect and therefore partially responsible for avoidable deaths. I suspect the families did not need to hear that from Charles so quickly. It could have waited, don't you think?

I won't try to justify the timing of Obama's gun control comments but I suspect the family was not has bothered by that nearly as much as hearing their pastor's neglect was a major factor in the disaster.

Well both Mr. Cotton and Obama spoke very quickly on the subject but its because both are very passionate about the subject. And no the family probably was not bothered as much by Obama's statement but I'm willing to bet it's not because of the timing but because it's the way they probably feel also, wanting gun control or guns banned period. While Mr. Cotton's statement wasn't in line with their views, timing wouldn't of matter one bit. Mr. Cotton could of posted that a month from now and Watts along with everyone else that already has jumped all over it would of still done the same thing, timing had nothing to do with it. I have seen several other groups post the same info Mr. Cotton posted about in the same statement all over facebook and other social sites and yet no one jumping all over them or making a big stink out of it. So you might ask yourself why Mr. Cotton then, well it's cause of whom he is. They view this as their chance to harm NRA, pro-gun rights and put both in dismay, also honestly it fits their agenda. Myself I hope Mr. Cotton does not end up losing anything over this cause many feel the same way he does and feels the same statement he made. Just if some normal nobody special said it certain people would not of twisted it around making it sound like other wise. It only happened cause of who said it and not what actually was said.

Jim Beaux wrote:

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A second point:


I responded to a question by a poster on a progun control website, who asked about where the poster could suggest gun bans reduced murders.

I suggested politely that Mexico was a place where gun were banned.

My post was removed and I was permanently banned from the website.

I hope the new members to the website will understand that Mr Cotton's website enjoys all posts that are polite and obey the other fair rules of the site.

I have found from my time on this site that Mr. Cotton is an intelligent honorable man. If for an reason someone found his comments in any way objectionable, I have no doubt that it was unintentioned.

The world would be a much finer place, if there were only more people like Mr. Cotton.

I tweeting a response to mad mothers:

"Simple question: Is it possible some of the victims would be alive if they had been armed, as Chas Cotton merely suggests?"

It was deleted

It's not surprising at all to be honest. They will remove and ban anyone that rebuttals their line of thinking or wishes. Then will come out later and state, "look everyone agrees with us. There is nothing but positive post and people wanting the same thing." That's one good thing about America we don't all have to agree or have same thought process.

EHooper02 wrote:I really only have one question:

If what he said wasn't wrong, why has it been deleted and you have been left to defend his statement?

Understand your board is probably under a lot of fire right now, and I'm certainly not trying to add to that. Just something to think about, I feel.

I don't know why Mr. Cotton took the post down but I'm sure it's to do with people taking the post the wrong way and twisting his words around. I know he feels as bad as everyone else about this ordeal and that it even happened. Too me he was, in a moment of hurt, stating that if someone in the church could of carried their concealed weapon there is / was a good chance they could of stopped it and their wouldn't have been the death's there was. Now certain groups and people took that statement and have twisted it around to fit their agenda. As I stated I know he feels as bad as everyone this happened, he also feels bad cause in his eyes and many of our own eyes this could of been stopped or not as bad had someone been able to carry their self defense weapon. If anything this just further proves unlawful people do not recognize nor care about laws or law abiding people.