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by Taltyman
Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:21 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CHL used to when buying a gun...
Replies: 30
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Re: CHL used to when buying a gun...

jmra wrote:
Taltyman wrote:It is optional but used, what makes you think it isn't?
According to multiple supervisors I have spoken to overseeing the NICS program, the SS# is not used in the proceed, delay, or deny NICS procedure. If you have information otherwise I would love to see it.

According to Attorney & Author Cindy Hill, of the more than 100,000 denials issued every year the vast majority are due to issues related to common names. If the system actually utilized SS#s this mistake should never happen, at least not where the applicant listed their SS# on the form which is the case more often than not.
http://www.atf.gov/files/applications/e ... -buyer.pdf says this
The Social Security Number is an optional field, but will help prevent misidentification
However it sounds like it they may not be using it in actuality. Interesting...
by Taltyman
Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:32 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CHL used to when buying a gun...
Replies: 30
Views: 8251

Re: CHL used to when buying a gun...

TomsTXCHL wrote:
jmra wrote:The NICS system is name based (entering your SS# does absolutely nothing) and is extremely flawed.
Tell me about the SSN thing. IIRC the "optional" note suggests having it can help--but it's not used at all by the FFL on whatever "Search" screen, or entry screen, that they use to submit for the computer check? Nor on "call-in"?
It is on the electronic entry form that FFLs and for a manual call in. It is optional but used, what makes you think it isn't? There were some items on the 4473 that were not used on the electronic form submission but several of those were added just this last week to make it more similar to information given for a manual call in.

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