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by dicion
Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:23 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?
Replies: 46
Views: 9622

Re: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?

Personally, I would rather they never let him out in the first place. As I said before, commuted sentences/early releases are a different problem entirely. They need to quit arresting people for non-crimes, and keep the obviously violent criminals in longer.
As far as I know, they don't sell guns behind prison walls, so he would not have been allowed to purchase one if he was kept where he deserved to be.

Obviously the laws already already restricting him from purchasing, owning, and carrying a firearm did not work, so sure, let's just make MORE laws, that people like him can keep breaking.
I'm sure once they realize they're breaking a certain number of them, which is obviously MORE than we have now, maybe 20? or 30?, it will make them stop and rethink their decision. We just have to make that number higher! :roll: :banghead:

Hate to break it to ya, but criminals don't buy their guns at gun shows, even from FTF sellers. There's too many police around. They generally avoid cops as much as possible.
Besides, criminals prefer cheap weapons. I don't think you're going to see one purchase a M1 Garand from a guy carrying it around with a 'for sale' sign on it.
They buy them on street corners from other criminals, or have friends and relatives buy them for them as straw purchases. (add another broken law to the list!)
Even if you made FTF sales illegal, they would still do it, and would still get guns, because, oh yeha.. CRIMINALS DO NOT OBEY LAWS.

And with that, I'm done in this thread.
by dicion
Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:30 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?
Replies: 46
Views: 9622

Re: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?

Problem is, you say you want to keep them out of the hands of the 'unfit'

However, you want to give the power to decide who is 'unfit' to the government entirely?

You do that, and certainly before long, we'll ALL be 'unfit' according to them.

The 2nd amendment doesn't have "...Unless some people don't want you to own them because they believe you are unfit" at the end of it.

As far as Ex-Cons with guns, Yes, I am fine with it. If they truly are ready for release back into society, and have served their time for their crime. I have no problem with them owning firearms. The problem today is our prisons are clogged with people for things that shouldn't be crimes, and so, they're letting out ones that SHOULDN'T be being let out. That's a failure of the prison system, not the second amendment. Who's that run by again? OH YEHA.. the Government :roll:
by dicion
Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:59 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?
Replies: 46
Views: 9622

Re: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?

marksiwel wrote:
You do need a license to own a car, and car insurance incase you get in an accident, are you saying we do the same?
Incorrect. You need a license to drive a car on public property, and the car needs to be registered and safety checked to do the same.
Compare this with a license needed to carry a weapon on public property.

There are no such restrictions to just own one, or sell one, or buy one.
I can tell you that as kids, we had quite a few field cars that were not licensed, registered, or filed with 'the man' in any way shape or form. As long as they were kept on private property, no paperwork was needed.
by dicion
Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:39 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?
Replies: 46
Views: 9622

Re: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?

So you're all for ending face to face transactions on guns..

... Yet I'm sure you're still A-OKAY with FTF transactions on the number one deadly weapon in this country today...

...Automobiles.
by dicion
Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:22 am
Forum: Other States
Topic: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?
Replies: 46
Views: 9622

Re: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?

Zee wrote:After reading the frequency of people getting bumped off from a Craigslist sale of an electric typewriter or similar item I would never meet an unknown somewhere to trade guns for cash. It sounds like the opening minutes of CSI.
I'd feel safer selling a gun in a parking lot to someone who has a CCW, than I would selling an iphone to some random joe.
by dicion
Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:50 am
Forum: Other States
Topic: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?
Replies: 46
Views: 9622

Re: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?

:iagree:

Also, The Texas Standard Waiting period is approximately how long it takes the FFL to run the NCIS Check. :mrgreen:

We don't believe in 'waiting periods' here in Texas (Well, other than for Class III Items, but thats more waiting for something to arrive, than waiting for the sake of waiting)

Now, I don't know if you can buy from a Texas FFL and Take it back to your home state. I don't see why not, but then again, I've already been proven wrong once in this thread :rolll
by dicion
Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:10 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?
Replies: 46
Views: 9622

Re: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?

flb_78 wrote:Im pretty sure the buyer would know that he had crossed state lines to buy a handgun.
Good point! Original response edited :thumbs2:
by dicion
Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:03 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?
Replies: 46
Views: 9622

Re: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?

flb_78 wrote:Wrong, one cannot sell a handgun across state lines without a FFL involved.
How are you to know if the person came across state lines? Are you checking ID? You are not required to do so, and they are not required to provide it.

After doing some research, you may be correct. I concede my prior statement. However, we'll put it in the same situation as 'buying a gun for a family member as a gift' if you remember that thread.
by dicion
Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:52 am
Forum: Other States
Topic: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?
Replies: 46
Views: 9622

Re: Sell face-to-face to out-of-state resident CCW?

moredes wrote:Hello,

I've been lurking here for a while and never seen this question come up. I hope this is the right forum for it. I'm a MS resident with an MS CCW and a non-resident FL CCW. Do Texas laws allow me to drive into TX and buy a handgun from a TX resident (through an FFL "middle-man")?

Thank you.
You don't even need the middle man. Face To Face Transactions are completely allowed. You can come meet me in a wal-mart parking lot, and I can sell you any of my handguns or long guns, no paperwork required. You can hand me cash, I hand you the firearm, and you drive away.

Now, that being said, it IS illegal to sell Face to face if you KNOW that the other person is not legally allowed to own a firearm. You also cannot sell if you KNOW that they are buying it to use in the commission of a crime.

Most people make a bill of sale for their own records, in case somehow they ever trace a weapon back to it's original owner, that way they have proof showing that they sold it. While not required, it's not a bad idea.

EDIT: Apparently I was incorrect in my initial statement. While not necessarily illegal for the Texas Resident to sell a firearm to you, as he is not required to verify that you are from within the state, If you are from out of state it is illegal to purchase a firearm in the state of Texas from a Texas resident in a face to face transfer.

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