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EEllis wrote: Yes a gun is much easier to remove from a holster if there is no retention but that fact alone without context means nothing. They don't even know if he was shot with his own gun just that he didn't have it when they found his body. Anything could of happened so I don't consider this support for retention holsters with what.we know about it now. That something could, if everything comes together right, support a point doesn't mean that it supports the point without, or until you find out, about that info.

You are arguing a point that does not need arguing. This is not a court of law. A tragedy has happened with the result of a good man, who realized the need to be armed, is now dead. God Bless his soul. I mourn for him and his family. He was wanting to do the right thing. And things went wrong. We are merely discussing how to possibly prevent future scenarios like this from happening in the future.

Enough said. I will not post further in this thread.

EEllis wrote:

joe817 wrote:

mojo84 wrote:Found this in about 15 seconds with google.

http://m.timesdispatch.com/news/update- ... l?mode=jqm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Makes for a good argument advocating retention holsters. Thanks for posting.

Have you read the story? There is nothing in it that indicates a retention holster would of made a darn bit of a difference. It read more like the man didn't pull his gun and use it when he could of than anything else. If you get jumped and lose a fight holster retention will not keep your gun secure. It may keep your gun out of others hand while you fight but when the fight is done if you lose they can get your gun.

Yup. Sure did....
"Tyler’s handgun was taken from his person, and within 30 seconds he was shot with a handgun,” Johnson said. “At this point, we cannot confirm that he was shot with his gun.” He added, “We believe only one shot was fired, and that was the fatal shot.” Johnson said it was unclear whether Smith or Hamiel had been armed when they entered the store, but they are accused of robbing Tyler of his weapon.

Sure sounds like they grabbed it from the holster to me. No retention holster, grabbed from it, MUCH easier to grab, off body, than a retention holster. I'm sure you agree with me on that point.

mojo84 wrote:Found this in about 15 seconds with google.

http://m.timesdispatch.com/news/update- ... l?mode=jqm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Makes for a good argument advocating retention holsters. Thanks for posting.