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by The Sarge
Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:04 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Multiple CHL 'types' ?
Replies: 33
Views: 4586

Re: Multiple CHL 'types' ?

I agree.....you would have to "do something else" in order for this charge to be tacked on. I know our county LEO's are on the record as saying they would not enforce such a thing.
As I posted previously I have sent emails to my reps. About all a guy can do these days I guess. Email your reps.
by The Sarge
Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:06 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Multiple CHL 'types' ?
Replies: 33
Views: 4586

Re: Multiple CHL 'types' ?

Yeah....I know all of them well...very small county...very rural here.....
Bottom line is this....
It is a Federal Law. Locals are not going to enforce nor really train on Fed stuff ( I am told)...they are trained to enforce State Laws.
I really only see this being enforced if something else is happening and they add this charge to the "list"....
But it is a law...and that is what I was after was more specific definition. I have written both my Senator and Congressman today concerning States reciprocating CHL issues and this law interfering with States Rights.
by The Sarge
Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:53 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Multiple CHL 'types' ?
Replies: 33
Views: 4586

Re: Multiple CHL 'types' ?

I am sorry....I just could not let this go (for my own personal edification)......I found a guy asking the same thing of the BATFE and please find their response.
http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/batf_school_zone.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So I have no doubt...carrying a gun with a Utah CHL or no CHL in your car's glove box/center console or under the seat is a federal offense within a 1000' of a school. Period.
You must have a Texas CHL to do so in Texas.
Thanks guys for your input on the subject. This forum is a valuable asset for sure! :tiphat:
by The Sarge
Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:03 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Multiple CHL 'types' ?
Replies: 33
Views: 4586

Re: Multiple CHL 'types' ?

Just for grins I called the Sheriffs Dept and asked "With no CHL can I carry a loaded handgun concealed in my car while I drive through a school zone without stopping as I am traveling..."
Took a few minutes :) But she came back and said as long as it is concealed...yes....
So obviously there is significant confusion!
Now I know we all have our Texas CHL but there is a lot of confusion on this subject....hopefully the CHL instructor will chime in here..... :cheers2:
by The Sarge
Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:55 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Multiple CHL 'types' ?
Replies: 33
Views: 4586

Re: Multiple CHL 'types' ?

I have sent him this thread link....
by The Sarge
Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:28 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Multiple CHL 'types' ?
Replies: 33
Views: 4586

Re: Multiple CHL 'types' ?

I called my instructor to get some clarity here and he provided it...basically what he is saying is this...
If a person has a Utah CHL or no CHL at all and the gun is in the glove box, center console, under the seat (whatever) out of sight they are breaking no laws...if a person (described above) has the gun on their person such as in a holster then they are breaking the law....so there is my confusion anyway...yes you can carry a gun through a school zone on a public road in your glove box/under your seat etc. but not concealed on your body without a Texas CHL....
by The Sarge
Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:09 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Multiple CHL 'types' ?
Replies: 33
Views: 4586

Re: Multiple CHL 'types' ?

There was also discussion about that being a Fed Law and not a State law and blah blah on the 10th amendment and so forth....
by The Sarge
Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:57 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Multiple CHL 'types' ?
Replies: 33
Views: 4586

Re: Multiple CHL 'types' ?

Yes this was pulled up in class^^^^^...the issue turned on "school property" and the instructor was very specific (both of them actually) that driving by or through a school zone was legal even for non CHL holders.
The road is not school property....but if your walking down the road, stopped (parked) carrying with a Utah license within a 1000' of a school...that is illegal....but if your on a public road and going through a school zone you do not even need any CHL.....that is what was taught in both the Texas CHL and the Utah CHL by two different instructors....so obviously there is confusion...
I will tell you....the Texas instructor was very well versed in the new Non CHL traveling with a weapon law....and he was adamant about this as many CHL holders there for renewal challenged him on it....
Me I have Texas and Utah both....I also wear suspenders and a belt..... ;-)
But if I understand what you are saying...you are saying under the Texas Law...a person who does not have a CHL traveleing say up Highway 281 from San Antonio to Ft. Worth...has to what? Stop and put his/her gun in the trunk before every school zone?
by The Sarge
Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:09 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Multiple CHL 'types' ?
Replies: 33
Views: 4586

Re: Multiple CHL 'types' ?

MPA?
In class (both Texas and Utah) the question was asked about schools. Also the question was asked about the non licensed (No CHL) carry in Texas (traveling)...and the answer to all was "if you are driving by a school and you have a gun in your car (concealed) then you have no issue....If you park ( say to pick up a child) within a 1000' of a school of course different laws may apply.
We had one guy in class that lived within a 1000' feet of a school.
This was beat to death in both the Texas class and the Utah class.
by The Sarge
Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:01 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Multiple CHL 'types' ?
Replies: 33
Views: 4586

Re: Multiple CHL 'types' ?

ELB wrote:
Many here in Texas get Utah Non Res CHL's. ...
There is one small catch. The federal Gun Free School Zone Act makes it a crime to have a gun within 1000 feet of an elementary or high school, unless you have a concealed handgun license issued by the state in which the school zone is located (or it is unloaded and locked up or you are a cop, etc). There have not been many prosecutions under this law, but there have been some. On a practical basis, the risk of being caught seems small, but it is something you may wish to consider. I don't worry about it much when I go to other states and drive around, but I like having my Tx CHL when I am repeatedly passing all the schools in my home area.
Well not really...we asked in class....and this was discussed in detail...if your carrying a Utah CHL and you are driving by a school your ok...if you stop in the parking lot your not OK....I have both my Texas and Utah....
You infer if your just driving down a public road you have to stay a 1000' from the school and that is not accurate....as long as you are in your car and driving along your OK....
by The Sarge
Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:55 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Multiple CHL 'types' ?
Replies: 33
Views: 4586

Re: Multiple CHL 'types' ?

Many here in Texas get Utah Non Res CHL's. No range requirements and good in Texas for Semi Auto or Wheel guns.....I have both Texas and Utah but my wife carry's with her Utah Non Res only....And Utah is much cheaper than Texas.

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