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mojo84 wrote:

philip964 wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

philip964 wrote:http://www.westernjournalism.com/shocki ... it=1810609

It spreads.

Could we consider this a "whites only" type of policy. After all it is a right in the constitution.

I can't watch the video that was embedded as it says the account connected to the video has been terminated.

I don't understand your "whites only type of policy" comment.

A business open to the public must accommodate persons regardless of race, creed, color, place of birth, or persons legally carrying a firearm, all as required in the constitution and bill of rights.

That's what I meant, why isn't it that way.

I thought that may be where you are going with that. Carrying a gun is not a protected class or condition when it comes to entering a business on private property. A person's right to carry doesn't trump a private property owner's right to have conditions customers and visitors must agree to abide by if they want to enter.

Whether you agree or not, that's the law. We've discussed this many times in here. It is not an appropriate comparison to compare a physical disability, race, color, creed or nationality with carrying a gun on private property of others.

Business owners open to the public cannot say "whites only", why then can they say "unarmed only". I understand a farmer, rancher, homeowner can refuse to allow anyone on their property. But a business open to the public is different. I know probably there is a Texas law that permits a business owner from limiting customers to the unarmed, but is it constitutional, since the Bill of Rights to me is very clear.

"...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

The Left is very good at stretching things to now cover things that are not specifically referenced, but why can't the Right, simply require the rights that are very clearly written and require no stretching.

I'm just saying.

mojo84 wrote:

philip964 wrote:http://www.westernjournalism.com/shocki ... it=1810609

It spreads.

Could we consider this a "whites only" type of policy. After all it is a right in the constitution.

I can't watch the video that was embedded as it says the account connected to the video has been terminated.

I don't understand your "whites only type of policy" comment.

A business open to the public must accommodate persons regardless of race, creed, color, place of birth, or persons legally carrying a firearm, all as required in the constitution and bill of rights.

That's what I meant, why isn't it that way.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/shocki ... it=1810609

It spreads.

Could we consider this a "whites only" type of policy. After all it is a right in the constitution.

omegaman wrote:I am in agreement with Deputy Stanley regarding a boycott. The House of Blues, or any other private establishment, has a right to refuse entry to LEOs and CHLs while carrying, but there should be a price to pay for their decision. Just my 2 cents.

Boycott idea was mine not the officer's. I want to be clear. He did not suggest a boycott. I do not know the Deputy, I do not want him to get in trouble with his superiors.

When everyone including off duty LEO's are disarmed, only criminals will be armed.

Knowing this is their policy of only having armed criminals in their business. I will avoid at all costs. Thus my boycott.

This was on my facebook page, so I think I can show the post without linking to it. The Deputy is not asking for a boycott, that was my idea.

"My name is Barry Stanley and I am a licensed peace officer in the State of Texas. I have been a Deputy Sheriff in Harris County Texas for 25 years.

On Friday, Sept. 25th, 2015, I visited your establishment in Houston, TX to see Blues Traveler.Upon my attempt to enter through security, I identified myself as a police officer and showed my badge and my I.D., and let the floor manager know that I was carrying my weapon.

I was told that I could not enter with my weapon. I explained that I was a licensed peace officer with the State of Texas, and I am required to carry my weapon with me, again I was refused. This conversation went on for a few minutes. I told the manager that had I not been with my wife and 4 other friends, I would demand my money back and leave.

I have never been so insulted in my whole career of Law Enforcement. I am allowed to carry my weapon in all sporting events and airports after proper identification is made. Yet, I was unable to carry my weapon in your establishment.

I believe this policy is anti-police. I had to return to my vehicle and disarm myself to return to the facility.

I called and left a message for General Manager Will Hodgson, 832-667-7750,(willhodgson@livenation.com) and as of today, 09-27-2015, I have not received a call back.

I stated to the floor manager that I was insulted by this, and I further stated that officers were being assassinated here in Harris County (Deputy Darren Goforth, assassinated 08-28-215). I also stated that I felt unsafe not having my weapon due to these recent events.

I believe your policy should be changed, and you should allow officers to carry their weapon inside your establishments.
Insulted,
Deputy Barry Stanley Harris County Sheriff's Office"