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by VoiceofReason
Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:04 pm
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Topic: a CHL does not mean you're Clint Eastwood
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Re: a CHL does not mean you're Clint Eastwood

mojo84 wrote:
Javier730 wrote::waiting:
Not everyone is professional enough to carry a block.

Is that why the U.S. Army has never used them?
by VoiceofReason
Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:32 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: a CHL does not mean you're Clint Eastwood
Replies: 57
Views: 9483

Re: a CHL does not mean you're Clint Eastwood

Javier730 wrote:
Glockster wrote:
ron_houston wrote:I consider myself extremely fortunate that in 14 years of carry in Texas that I never once pulled my weapon.
There were a couple of times where I could have and once where I should have, but I was able to solve the problem without pulling my handgun.
Isn't that the ultimate goal of all of us?
I was confronted by 3 drunks at a service station on I-10 east one morning at 5:30 and punched for no reason breaking my nose. My initial reaction was to punch him back, which knocked him to the ground. I was wearing a dress shirt, not tucked in, and a belt-slide with a 92f. As he went down, I immediately put my hand on my weapon. I knew, in that instant, that I was not going to be killed by 3 drunks. I knew in that instant that if they came at me I would shoot. I told the two men trying to help the guy I hit get up "do not let him get up. If he gets up I will hurt him very badly". I said it in a very strong voice. I knew I had a free pass on this one. There were several witnesses standing there that saw the whole thing. There was a video camera pointed right at us. I repeated it twice more, each time raising my voice. I said "it's over, he hit me and I hit him. Now I'm going to walk to my car and leave, which I did but never turning my back to them. I drove off thinking "well, I guess "dispute resolution" really works.
The other time was less severe. I was riding my Harley down Almeda-Genoa and a drunk ran a stop sign and pulled out in front of me. Just to let him know I was there, I gave him a short toot with my horn. At the light at Monroe he pulls up next to me and rolls down his window and yells "what if I get out and just whip your butt?" I very casually looked over at him and unbuttoned my vest and said in a calm voice "what if I pull out the biggest gun you've ever seen and shoot you?" at which point, he turned right and sped off...again, problem solved.
It is not always about just throwing rounds down range.
Think before you act.
Just my opinion folks.
Thankfully both of those situations turned out okay for you. Opposed to three drunks swearing out an assault complaint against you only to find out the the gas station camera wasn't actually working, but the other witnesses DID hear you threaten the guy but didn't see him punch you and did see you punch him. Or opposed to the the drunk running the stop sign not actually being drunk, then calling in a BWAG (biker with a gun, which is probably one rung up from MWAG) who threatened him for no reason. I'm simply suggesting that I myself wanting to ensure that I didn't put myself in the position where someone could make claims that I initiated the situation then only to pull my weapon when I felt like I wasn't "winning." Just saying. :tiphat:
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A person can “what if” and twist any situation around so the CHL (victim) can end up on the wrong end of the stick. The bottom line is one must use the best judgment he or she can at the time and hope for the best. If a CHL is that worried about using his gun when he/she is justified and being attacked, maybe he/she should leave the gun at home and carry pepper spray.

Personally I believe that was a very lucky drunk. Had it been me, when he punched me I would have put as many 45s in his chest as I could before he hit the ground and that is not being “Batman”. I am not going to trust my assessment of whether I could beat him and his buddies in a fistfight or if any of them have weapons themselves. He attacked me, I feared for my life or grave bodily injury, I stopped the threat period.

I am glad it turned out well for the OP but a similar reaction in the next situation could get you killed.

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